Yea, I can't roll for shit either. I've been smoking on a daily basis for over 7 years and I still can't roll to save my life. When I decide to do it, it's an hour long process or rolling, i end up tearing through half a pack of papers and by the time I am done, I don't want to smoke it, I NEED to smoke it to keep from shooting someone. I've been smoking out of glass pipes for years now. The only downside to pipes is when you're out and about like the beach or a concert or something. joints and easier to toke and chuck the roach. Walking around the beach with a glass pipe in the pocket isn't very cool.