thanks for the quick response. i just setup the strings this morning so i just finished taking them down. very helpful. thanks a lot. another thing.. they're about a foot tall and almost on their 4th week. do you think beginning the flowering stage would be a good idea when they hit about 1.5 ft tall since they double in size usually during the flowering stage? i have them growing in a closet with a nice setup and dont really want them to get over 3-4ft tall. also i heard shorter bushier plants were better than tall spread out ones? im using floragro,floramicro,and florabloom nutrients. i flush and remix nutrients every 7-10 days and currently im using a very strong mix of floragro (N). i built the nutrients up in a couple quick stages so it wouldnt nuke the plants, they seem to be doing very wall and look great, im hoping to determine their sex within this next week. i've grown organicly in the past and noticed the plants stunk to high heaven once they got about a foot tall. these plants are almost a ft tall and they dont have that skunky smell like before? would this be because maybe the difference in strains or is it just how hydro goes? theyre bag seeds from some upper mids and im just now starting to get a very small hint of that skunky smell. i also heard that potent smell usually only is exposed during the flowering stage. any advice?