thxs chowder, i still have 8 left, i went away 4 the weekend and left someone 2 look after them, when i came back 4 days, they hadnt watered them @ all, maybe once, they where all lokkin good b4 this, so i reckon the shock from not gettin there usual daily waterin, turned them, i took 2 more males last night makes 4 altoghether, as i said 8 left, keepin my eye on one, could go either way, fingers crossed, is it unusual 4 a female 2 grow a small few seed?