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09-22-2005, 02:49 PM #1
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Suit Filed to Halt New Orleans Gun Seizures
Suit Filed to Halt New Orleans Gun Seizures
Newsmax | September 22 2005
The Second Amendment Foundation (SAF) and National Rifle Association (NRA) joined with individual gun owners in Louisiana Thursday morning, filing a motion in United States District Court for the Eastern District of Louisiana seeking a temporary restraining order to stop authorities in and around the City of New Orleans from seizing firearms from private citizens in the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina.
Arbitrary gun seizures, without warrant or probable cause, have been reported during the past three weeks since the Crescent City was devastated by the hurricane. In cases reported to SAF, police refused to give citizens receipts for their seized firearms. Earlier, SAF insisted that police account for all seized firearms, disclose their whereabouts, and explain how they will be returned to their rightful owners. Authorities have not responded.
Gun confiscations have been highly publicized since the New York Times quoted New Orleans Police Superintendent P. Edwin Compass III, who said, "Only law enforcement are allowed to have weapons," and ABC News quoted Deputy Police Chief Warren Riley stating, "No one will be able to be armed. We are going to take all the weapons."
For example, a San Francisco, CA camera crew from KTVU filmed one incident in which visiting California Highway Patrol officers tackled an elderly woman identified as Patricia Konie, to seize her pistol and forcibly remove her from her home. An ABC news crew accompanying an Oklahoma National Guard unit filmed another incident in which homeowners were handcuffed and disarmed, then released but without their firearms.
"We are delighted to work jointly with the NRA in an effort to bring these outrageous gun seizures to a halt," said SAF founder Alan M. Gottlieb. "Our inquiries about these confiscations were cavalierly ignored, as were our demands for a public explanation from the police and city officials about why citizens were being unlawfully disarmed, leaving them defenseless against lingering bands of looters and thugs.
"New Orleans officials left us with no recourse," Gottlieb observed. "It was bad enough that Big Easy residents were victims of the worst natural disaster in the nation's history. That they would be subsequently victimized by their own local government, taking their personal property without warrant, is unconscionable. These illegal gun seizures must be stopped, now."pisshead Reviewed by pisshead on . Suit Filed to Halt New Orleans Gun Seizures Suit Filed to Halt New Orleans Gun Seizures Newsmax | September 22 2005 The Second Amendment Foundation (SAF) and National Rifle Association (NRA) joined with individual gun owners in Louisiana Thursday morning, filing a motion in United States District Court for the Eastern District of Louisiana seeking a temporary restraining order to stop authorities in and around the City of New Orleans from seizing firearms from private citizens in the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina. Arbitrary Rating: 5
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09-23-2005, 02:11 AM #2
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Suit Filed to Halt New Orleans Gun Seizures
I guess I'm one of those left wing nuts who believes in all the amendments, including the second.
\"Rightful liberty is unobstructed action according to our will, within limits drawn by the equal rights of others. I do not add \"within the limits of the law\', because law if often but the tyrant\'s will, and always so when it violates the rights of the individual.\"-Thomas Jefferson.
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09-23-2005, 08:17 AM #3
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Suit Filed to Halt New Orleans Gun Seizures
Not me!
Originally Posted by andruejaysin

I say, repeal the fucker. Its time has come and gone.
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09-23-2005, 08:30 AM #4
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Suit Filed to Halt New Orleans Gun Seizures
from memory
Originally Posted by bhallg2k
" a well regulated milita being NESSESARY to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bare arms shall not be infrindged"
pretty close right, cause it makes sense.
in hitlers land only the cops had guns.
it has always seemed strange to me that a government thinks it can take guns away from people who make them.
i was taught to make gun power when i was 7, still make it sometimes, it is fun in the winter, lights up the sky.
what will we do when they figure out, it is our minds that make us dangerous
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09-23-2005, 11:09 AM #5
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Suit Filed to Halt New Orleans Gun Seizures
How bout when your trying to do rescue operations and your being fired on? The ones that aren't bangers will get theirs back....unless you WANT gang bangers shooting at Guardsmen?
Originally Posted by hempity
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09-23-2005, 12:29 PM #6
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Suit Filed to Halt New Orleans Gun Seizures
Oh, gangbangers shouldn't have guns either.
Everyone should just throw stones.
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09-23-2005, 02:26 PM #7
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Suit Filed to Halt New Orleans Gun Seizures
ever notice that the palestinian kids throw at a much higher arch than the protestant kids in Northern Ireland who throw line drives??>
kids are great!
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09-23-2005, 04:44 PM #8
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Suit Filed to Halt New Orleans Gun Seizures
Originally Posted by Psycho4Bud
wasn't going to answer, but these old fingers need the practice.
first off, i don't believe everything the news tells me, these gang bangers as you call them, may well live where these good guys are rescuing people, so i don't believe that they would not want their homies rescued.
I remember the watts riot, i was down there then, i saw first hand what the national guard did, i was alive when kent state happened i saw what the national guard did, the last time i was in portland oregon 35 of us were pulled over, because i would not wear a helmut, the national guard came with full autos and watched as the cops took pictures of all of us, we were the gang bangers of yesterday.
Now even jay leno rides a harley (lol) makes a joke out of what was once really special.
In my whole life, i have never seen a cop help a person, have no friends they have helped, the only time i have talked to them was to find out where they were holding my friends, or to get out of jail myself.
you can believe that the cops, guard and army are there to help you, i happen to know better, they will run over your ass getting out the door or city before you, they are in it to save themselves and the ones they care for.
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09-23-2005, 05:07 PM #9
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Suit Filed to Halt New Orleans Gun Seizures
and he completely ignores how EVERYONE is being disarmed...disarming EVERYONE doesn't equal safety...gotta love the neo-cons...
as if the 'bangers' will voluntarily give up their guns to begin with...he'd rather disarm my family and myself so we are helpless...
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09-23-2005, 05:41 PM #10
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Suit Filed to Halt New Orleans Gun Seizures
I watched a special on that the other night. They didn't only have N.O. bangers in town but some from as far as Miami all in town for the same purpose; looting. There were actual turf wars going on there. I've spent a bit of time in N.O. and I do believe that they did have trouble with the bangers. VERY previlant!!
Originally Posted by hempity
I know what ya mean about the cops but like all others, there are good ones and all the others. As for myself, I ride a Heritage Softtail Classic so I understand where your coming from. The law doesn't really appreciate bikers or what they have on their back...I'm sure you know where I'm coming from.
Well, take a hit for you and a hit for me and if we seem to disagree, take a hit for you and a hit for me!
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