Do you believe in god?

[F L E S H]

This is weirder: I still remember a four-part dream from when I was 12, but I can only remember three dreams in the past 11 years.

That is wierd, but at least the sentence made sense...

[Torog]

There you go being all patronizing againd...

Don't say people like haven't had important life experiences. I'm only 25, but I've been through a lot, I've seen quite a bit too. The lens through which you view your life is already colored by Christianity, so you'll see God in anything out of the ordinary. Me, I don't need God when I have powerful human beings who care for me. I don't need God because there's nothing I fear that's insurmountable. I think everyone who believes in God so strongly must be deeply afraid of something else, be it death, sickness, hunger, misery, etc. Christians say those afflictions are caused by Satan, I say they're caused by failures of humanity, and that Satan is just everybody's favorite scapegoat. Thus the fear of Satan will make one run towards God with open arms.

I don't need God anymore because I believe in myself, in what my mind can achieve, in a positive mindset, in the potential of humanity to surmount any ill. We dno't need God anymore. Oh how right was Nietzsche when he said, "God is dead."

Howdy FLESH,

Maybe I am being patronizing,but tell me this..are you a parent ? If you ain't a parent,then there's a whole side of Life that you are missing out on. Being a parent,requires one to learn selflessness and how to nurture others than just yerself.

I tell you what-I ain't never heard anyone say that they don't need God..because there are powerful human beings lookin out for em..I would never entrust my care to another human,I was raised to rely on myself and no one else..I would never fool myself into believeing for even a moment-that relying on an imperfect human..is ever a good thing.

We all need God now more than ever..and He/She,is alive and well..and always will be..and so is Jesus Christ. I have no reason to fear death or satan,as long as I give myself to God and Jesus Christ..while I do fear the Wrath of God..I don't come to God,out of fear..I know that God loves me,just as God loves us all,including you..oh errant lamb..I trust God to take care of me..not some imperfect sinner..no matter how powerful they may be,they are nothing in the face of God's Power.

Have a good one ....

[GHoSToKeR]

Morning, Torog!

I hope you don't mind me replying to your post on F L E S H's behalf.. I hope F L E S H doesn't mind, either! lol

You say the reason alot of us don't believe in God is because we dion't have the life experience to do so. This doesn't make sense to me, as there are millions of children and young adults all over the world who do believe in God. Surely they don't have the life experience to believe in God yet, and therefore any decision on the subject that they have made was not made by them but by persuasion from another source, such as a parent or guardian? If we're too young to make the decision then they should be too.

Okay, how about this? How about nobody can make any decision regarding religion until they're at least 25? 30? How old do you have to be to decide whether you believe in something or not?

I was raised Christian. I've studied the Bible and I believed it. I believed in God. But it wasn't until I grew up and matured some that I was able to make my own decisions, my own conclusions.

I know that no matter what happens in my life i'm never going to blame God or thank God. If something bad happens that, well, shit happens. I don't live in fear of anything; when something bad happens the blame will go exactly where it should go. Likewise if something good happens in my life I will never thank anything or anyone other than the thing or person who causd it to happen. I won't thank God if I have a good life because it will be me who made that happen.

I find it extremely patronising when you say that i'm only an atheist because I don't have the life experience to believe in God. Likewise I could say that you only believe in God because you don't have the strength to live your life without a babysitter. But I would never say that because that's not what I believe. I believe that everybody needs something in their life to give them support; some people, like yourself, choose God and religion, whereas others, such as myself, do not.

Some people will just never believe in God; not because they're sinners, or because they're evil, not even because they haven't experienced life or God yet and not out of any mallicious intent. They just do not believe in God. It's that simple. I think it's foolish and ignorant of you to judge somebody based on that.

GHoST

[likemclever]

Morning, Torog!

you forgot to say have a good one....

[GHoSToKeR]

Have a good one!

[meloncoly]

bunch of bible-bashers, go pray to your false gods, like the rest of the world, because your god is the only true god! all the rest are false! yeah get a clue

[F L E S H]

Thanks for answering, GHoST

I tell you what-I ain't never heard anyone say that they don't need God..because there are powerful human beings lookin out for em..I would never entrust my care to another human,I was raised to rely on myself and no one else..

Remember when I said that I think that people who believe in God do so because they must be intensely afraid of something else? Well it seems that you're afraid of your fellow man, you're afraid to trust another human being. It probably explains your fear of muslims, of gays, of communists, of lefties in general, and of anybody outside of Texas. Why do you fear people, Torog? And what do you hope to gain by believing in God to make up for this fear? Do you think he'll just smite all the people YOU don't like?

[Breukelen advocaat]

THINKERS!
means:
Two Healthy Incomes, No Kids, Early Retirement

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Religion is a gigantic fraud, causes numerous problems in the world, is anti-life, and an act of desperation by people conditioned by terror to not trust their own mind or instincts.

A message to the young people out there (especially guys): don't get trapped into having kids. Don't be a sucker. If a gal (or guy) that you date insists on breeding, cut 'em loose. I always did, and am extremely glad for it.
I am married, without children, and live according to the THINKER saying above: CHILDFREE and HAPPY!

[kuulbns]

Ya know,...I do happen to believe,.. okay? I don't rank on those that choose not to. I don't preach. Can we please refrain from some of the "religious people are brain dead, conspiracy following idiots" type of stuff. It's always nice to read others opinions, and I am certainly open to your points of view but, I am not an moron.

[beachguy in thongs]

I'd assume he's talking about 'religious fanatics', whose life is to wake up and go to bed, the rest of the time, they are 95% brain dead.