Does education make you more intelligent?

[GHoSToKeR]

I believe that intelligence is something you are born with or without. Intelligence to me is how your brain works, not what it can remember. I consider somebody intelligent not by how they speak or what facts they remember, but how they percieve the world around them and the conclusions they draw from those perceptions.

Education, I think, is different. You can study to the highest level but still not be all that smart.

So my question is do you think education can actually make a person smarter? And do you think it even makes a difference? If a person is born not-so-bright and gets a good level of education, can they be as intelligent as somebody who is born pretty bright but who gets a lower level of education, or no education at all?

I'd like to see (hear, read, smell) what you guys think....

-GHoST-

GHoSToKeR Reviewed by GHoSToKeR on 09-20-2005. Does education make you more intelligent? I believe that intelligence is something you are born with or without. Intelligence to me is how your brain works, not what it can remember. I consider somebody intelligent not by how they speak or what facts they remember, but how they percieve the world around them and the conclusions they draw from those perceptions. Education, I think, is different. You can study to the highest level but still not be all that smart. So my question is do you think education can actually make a Rating: 5

[flamingskullballs]

i also think people are born as smart as they will ever be...how you accept the world shows a lot of intellect...
schooling has nothing to do with it

[GHoSToKeR]

Then what's schooling for? We all know it serves a purpose. There are loads of things I know because I learnt them in school....

So has it made me more intelligent? Or has it made me more knowledgable? And is there a difference?

[Az.]

oohhh the nature/nuture debate...

it really depends how you are going to tell whether they are intelligant....what they are learning....its a bit late for me to be thinking about this....ive had a BUSY and long day....9.15 - 5 at college....then get home and continuously work untill 11.....im only in my second week and ive fucking worked my ass off.....lol

g-nite all

[kuulbns]

I recently watched a documentary on "feral children", (wild children). While these children can learn to some degree, MRI's and CT scans show marked damage to the brain, areas that never developed because of lack of use. This is permanent damage. Therefore (IMHO) Intelligence has as much to do with nurture as with nature. If parts of the brain are not stimulated they fail to develope the necesary nueron connections to use them. Interesting stuff.

[Az.]

I recently watched a documentary on "feral children", (wild children). While these children can learn to some degree, MRI's and CT scans show marked damage to the brain, areas that never developed because of lack of use. This is permanent damage. Therefore (IMHO) Intelligence has as much to do with nurture as with nature. If parts of the brain are not stimulated they fail to develope the necesary nueron connections to use them. Interesting stuff.

yeah i did a few studys on feral children (the wild boy of avyron ((sp))) and its very interesting...they have a window of oppertunity to learn certain things such as comprhendable language and stuff like manners....other wise they simply dont have any social skills in the slightest.....there was also one i looked at about a girl who was kept in a chicken coop for 7 years and their neibourghs didnt do anything to stop this....but when she came out of the coop she made clucking sounds and didnt use her hands to eat....
but i cant go too deep...i wasnt even going to post this but couldnt resist....i love stuff like this...

[nickx760]

I believe that intelligence is something you are born with or without. Intelligence to me is how your brain works, not what it can remember. I consider somebody intelligent not by how they speak or what facts they remember, but how they percieve the world around them and the conclusions they draw from those perceptions.

Education, I think, is different. You can study to the highest level but still not be all that smart.

So my question is do you think education can actually make a person smarter? And do you think it even makes a difference? If a person is born not-so-bright and gets a good level of education, can they be as intelligent as somebody who is born pretty bright but who gets a lower level of education, or no education at all?

I'd like to see (hear, read, smell) what you guys think....

-GHoST-

^i agree

[RICVAGANAJASMOKER]

Intelligent people will take to education. Ignorant fools will not. Intelligence is ingrained. Not learned. Lessons are learned.

[GHoSToKeR]

Wow, that's really interesting, Az and Kuu! Thanks!

I guess, like you said Az., it depends on what you use to measure intelligence. However, I disagree with the methods we use today; tests, basically. A kid can not learn a damn thing all year and then cram for a test and ace it. Then another kid with a bad memory and bad nerves can fail when he really knows all that stuff.

I think i'd describe intelligence as the power to understand. Like, when I was 16 at school I would fail certain maths tests because the tests relied heavily on remembering the tables we had been taught (you know, 2x2, 3x3, 4x4). Pretty basic stuff, but people don't realise that you don't have to be good at maths to remember what 7x9 is. Kids who were bad at math but had okay memories would obviously be considered good at math. Where as I couldn't tell you what anything times anything is without having to stop for a second and think, and I would feel dumb, but then for the rest of the lesson i'd be studying stuff that the rest of the class wouldn't learn for a few years, and i'd soak it all up.

I'm just curious to what people actually consider intelligence. What actually makes somebody clever? The ability to remember facts and figures? Because if so then education really does make people smarter. But if intelligence is just the ability to understand, to comprehend, then no, I don't think you can learn that.

As to those children you guys mentioned; I think it was mainly the lack of social interactions that had such a drastic effect on their brains. But the subject sounds fascinating.. i'll look in to it some time. Oh and good point, RICVAGANAJASMOKER!

I wonder... we've all heard that humans only actually use a small percentage of their brains and therefore only utilise a small portion of their possible brain capacity. I wonder what it is that we're missing in our day-to-day lives that is stopping these parts of the brain from being activated? And what would happen if they were activated?

-GHoST-

[Lily420]

Im confused...but i belive education will educate you. But i do agree that your either born intelligent and witty or not.