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[neilmcca]

what ever happened to FREE SPEECH no matter how crazy the speech is

but what the fuck do i know

Exactly how "free" do u want your "free speech" ?
Child molestors being able to talk about what they do to kiddies ?
maybe racists being able to say what the hell they want on our forums would be a good idea too ? and we could always give them their own section of the forums while we're at it,

i'm in favour of free speech, but a line needs to be drawn somewhere.

[HvyFuel]

That has never existed in democratic society. As example only, if I were to say baby skin is the best thing to bind books with and you should all go skin babies. (very extreme, I'm sorry) I would be deemed by society as mentally unstable and hospitalised.

Abusing the right to free speech is a far worse crime than denying it.

peace

[HvyFuel]

neil, u type faster I do

[Libertarian Toker]

"So if someone was chopping your kids up with an axe whilst singing Waltzing Matilida and wearing a pink tutu, you would..."

C. Kill them on the spot.

Actions are different then words. His words have hurt nothing but a few pridefull feelings.

"we come to this forum to exchange thoughts and to generally share experiences in life and to hopefully help each other out with good advice and support"

Unless their crazy old coots, then the fuzzy feel good BS turns into a cry to have them banned. I have my own reasons for coming to this board. The "we" part of that is interesting in that it would seem you think you speak for all. You don't speak for me, so try not to say why I come here. If you ban everyone you think is screwed in the head, who will you help with your good advise and support?

"what we don't wanna hear is some "old coot" talking about taking showers with his nieces and then quoting verse after verse of the bible at us ?"

What right do you have to decide what it is "we" wanna hear? Personaly I don't wanna hear others speak for me. To me that is worse then some idiot talking about sick crap.

"but he is way toooo "cuckoo" for my liking."

Socialist are way to cuckoo for my liking. Can they be banned too if they come around spouting their commi BS? Why no, as much as I don't like them I would still think that was a bad idea. Wanting to punish someone because you don't like them can lead to all manner of BS. Acting like you care so much and are concered with the well being of others here, and then liking to see one of the people that needs that the most banned, is a little confusing to me. Can you explain this method of support you have going a little better, and how banning someone is helping them?

"what ever happened to FREE SPEECH no matter how crazy the speech is"

People are being conditioned to think it's ok to silence speech from people they don't like. It's becoming an accepted practice now-a-days. To bad! One day it will come around to bite US in the ass. Some times you don't know what you got until it's gone.

Toker

[Libertarian Toker]

"i'm in favour of free speech, but a line needs to be drawn somewhere."

So where do you draw that line, and who does the drawing?

Toker

[Libertarian Toker]

"Exactly how "free" do u want your "free speech" ?"

As free as possible. Restricted Freedom doesn't seem much like Freedom to me.

"maybe racists being able to say what the hell they want on our forums would be a good idea too ?"

Yours???? Really? A racist spouting BS doesn't scare me, as my voice would be much louder then his. Personaly I would rather know who thinks that way, and try to get them to see the error in their ways. Your just sweeping it under the carpet by chasing it into hiding. It may just be racist's now, but what about later when it's something else offencive to someone else? What about if someone decided talking about drugs was equal to talking about hate, and banned it? Old Ben said it pretty good, those that are willing to give up Freedom for a little temporary safety, don't deserve either one.

Toker

[Lulu]

I think, and I'm tempted to say We,
but instead I'll say,
I know what side of the line child abuse should be on,
surely that's not even up for discussion

Please feel free to berate me for my intolerance.......

[Dr Timothy Leary]

Wel in the words of Hunter S. Thompson, im sure Bloogle is 'Just another ugly refugee from the love generation'


peace m8

[WeeeeeBong]

I don't know who owns and maintains this site.The site is indeed public as it is on the internet but that doesn't mean it is not run and maintained privately.
This is their house so to speak.If you come into my house and I tell you I don't want you cussing or discussing issues that may discust others then you'd do well not to or you'd find the door real fast.
I don't think this is a forum for pedophiles to come and discuss what they do and it appears to me they aren't welcome here.
Moron's have a right to free speech too but it doesn't mean anyone has to give them a platform.



"maybe racists being able to say what the hell they want on our forums would be a good idea too ?"

Do a few searches and you'll find plenty of racists sites.It looks to me as if they are having no problems in exercising their right to free speech.If they were to come to my house however and spouted their igornance,they'd be shown the door.
One has a right to talk as an individual and another has the right to not listen,especially in their own house.

[Libertarian Toker]

You have just broken your own law by talking about it. Do you think ignoring problems will make them go away? Child abuse seems to mean a lot of things now-a-days. From what I can tell this is all based on something that was retracted later at a chat room. What exactly was said, and what part of it did you think is worthy of being banned? Since we are talking about child abuse, should we now be banned also?

Toker