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[Rezinator]

The grow was so screwed up from the start. Was first going to be indoors, then woman said go outdoors, a flippin beaver freaks me out while placing at my site, me thinking what if.... then finally back inside. Meanwhile this one had gone into a 2 gal pot, we did a lot of kayaking and no closet got built.

She got no ferts at all until 14 days ago. So far - since final transplant - went twice with half strength 2-5-2 with B1. She also got Earthworm Castings at transplant to 5 gal. In two days she will get 2-7-7 full strength via Schultz Cactus Plus. And maybe a 1/4 tsp of TakeRoot / same gal of distilled.

I have some Peters 20-20-20 but MB - are you thinking Nitrogen? She got precious little obviously. And does she need any when just about to go into flowering? Just always think of Nitrogen with vegging.

pH adjustment on first nuted distilled water I aimed high at 7. Previous water was not tested nor adjusted. Will bring next pH in at 6.7 or so.

I'd just tell noobier noobs than me to plan plan plan. This is a hell of a ride once the seeds go into the paper towels.

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I don't recall where I saw "lumen burn". Oh wait. I know. Maybe. It's like when Zandor talks about tinfoil and gloss and ---> hot spots. Have to ask him if those are literally hot - like the sun through a magnifying glass - or whether it is a kind of light intensity concept.

Anyway, all I can tell ya is she was never without a fan and tips have been brwon like that on just about every leaf since she was 20 inches or so tall. And the dumbass editor who did the Cervantes book never got the legend keyed correctly for the illustrations. Best inference is to Potassium but it's Nitrogen she never got.

Let me know if she should get some low level of Nitrogen before 12/12 begins.

Gotta go do some Cloning readin. tks

[Rezinator]

Harddon,

Thank you again for reigning in my indecisiveness.

The plan has been to use Stanley (damn the thing looked so sweet when I saw it on the shelf) to pull heat up through ceiling at center. At the Depot of Homes I got a 10' length of that 4" flex duct. Stan will get one intake (side) taped off, and the 4" duct, once duct is taped to Stan will pull from hole in cabinet ceiling at center. ((((( or possibly from the left hand end of cabinet - but from the ceiling - not the side as I would like to keep the side panel free to come off. - that flexpipe ain't like the hoses.

So far I'm tossing around two options for cool air inlets.
1. Just one 2" hole (light trap) where the stem goes through a lower right panel cutout. In which case could exhaust at upper left corner.
2. 5 or 6 - 3/4" holes - with light trap naturally along the bottom of the front panel.

Stanley will simply pull the whole mess into, we hope, some effectiveness.

Short of buying another Stan, I do have an eight inch fan that might fit. It's newer and better. Obviously vegging or flowering any clones will have to go elsewhere if Mother grows laterally much more - Ha!! Sound familiar?? 'Course I can always pull the pail out but how bush league would that be. Lol.

[Marc Benson]

"That looks definately like hot burn, no question about it."

Yeah but you're a stoner. What could you possibly know?

If we were all close I'd bet you both dinner that it wasn't the leaves being burnt because of that masonite 'absorbing' enough heat to do that, but alas we aren't. Best thing I guess it to either change it, or keep the 'leafs' away from it. Then it's what I call, a non issue.

As for the ferts and leaf tips burning? In the world famous overgrow.com's Fertilizing & feeding : Nutrient deficiencies it says this:

"Tips of leaves are yellow, brown, or dead. Plant otherwise looks healthy & green. Stems may be soft >> Over-fertilization (especially N), over-watering, damaged roots, or insufficient soil aeration (use more sand or perlite. Occasionally due to not enough N, P, or K"

So you can sort of go from there and try to figure out what caused it. If you say it hasn't had much N then that's taken out of the equation.

[HARDDON]

Nah man thats burn. No doubt about it.

remember, those leaves can be very very very young and burn even when they are little leaflets shooting from a grow tip. If burned when little, they will grow up burned as well.

I have one plant that is covered from that....but the head was blowing against the lamp and here we are, weeks later, looks burned . I'd post a pic, but muther fucker i am way too stoned to fuck with them anymore.

As for the more general tip burns, or whatever, that is a different story. I usually find that to be a over water problem, or pH problem or root tip hitting something it doesnt like problem.

But way too common and it doesnt hurt the plant it seems....

I bet you all I am higher than you

[Marc Benson]

"I bet you all I am higher than you"

I'm 1230 feet above see level. If you live where I think you do I might win that bet.

[Rezinator]

The burns peculiar, maybe even interesting, no repeats since paper was hung on the wall, so I donâ??t know.

Based on new info there though I think I am going to proclaim it was possibly from rubbing or leaning up against concrete while measurements for the arc of the stalk were calculated..

As for leaf tips browning: Yes, MB, I gotta go with my stinginess with the Perlite in her earlier 2 gal pot. when I did the transplant to the 5gal I tried to match Harddonâ??s proportion from his rootball pics, but probably still went to light with it.

Also Tks for N input MB. Some day as geriatrics weâ??ll have that dinn on me and hash out all kinds of altitudes.

I should probably start an official log on this grow - but this morning I came down, sipped a couple hits, began surveying my work done and work to be done and then, oh fuck, the perfect fit humidity dome I found for the cloning tub ainâ??t gonna fit under that screen.

Great. Okay fine. So - just as Iâ??m considering the free style bulb makeover, Iâ??m sliding into spacier thoughts of discouragement (at grow purchases to date approaching street price of an oz ), and Iâ??m gawkin over the canopy, sure trying to recoup yesterdayâ??s cockiness, and whatâ??s this... the â??saw dustâ?� I thought I saw yesterday, now looks more like a mold???.

Turns out itâ??s spider mites. Just on maybe a node or two of leaves on about 2 or 3 low olf branches. Branches that had been heading for cloning ward.

And as usual when it comes to some new turn in this we only had an old sprayer of Hyponex with less than a quarter cup left, so I used that.
What do â??weâ?� know about shelf life of these gentler pesticides? Anybody.
Will get some Johhson&Johnsons Baby tomorrow and follow up with that.

Pics of infestation below.

Hopefully nailed mite prob in the bud. Make that â??..before the budâ?�.

Letâ??s see. What else. Good to see latewoodâ??s still kickin.

Oh. Right. Correction to above description of flexible ductwork product at HD.
I had said they stretched to 10â?? in length. Meant to say they're 8â?? when stretched. In the store they are compressed to about 36â?�. Just so folks know what to look for. Makes itâ??s own elbows. About $7 and change.

MB, the Stanley deff seems to have the efficiency to pull the exhaust. No question a 2nd one would now fit inside box (since cloning tank's gotta go elsewhere)(and lights will prob be rehung freestyle) The Stanley is quieter than fans on hand. So, do I wanna get another one, becomes the question. Will see how gusts look, and how loud fan sounds when all closed up.

[Rezinator]

Man I gotta try doing this straight some time...lol

I don't even listen to Pink Floyd that much anymore....rotfl

Dah. Da pics.

[Marc Benson]

Are you sure that's mites? I had thrips and the leaves looked identical. Right down to the black specs, which are their shit. Maybe mites leave the same sign? I used a product called Concern to get rid of them. Worked good but it browned the tips of the pistils a little. They came out of it though and you can't even tell they were brown now.

[Rezinator]

Not 100% sure, Marc.

The Hyponex has thrips covered - provided shelf life ain't blown by winter freezes -

Googled up pics until larvae of Spider Mite matched up about as close as anything. Loupe is only about 15x or 20x. Larvae of these guys weren't amber. More milky white transluscent. And although I didn't stay at a Holiday Inn last night, the adult looked to me like it had an 8 legged gait.

[HARDDON]

ROFLMMFAO