Quote Originally Posted by Fengzi
Yep, I agree too. And I'm an aethiest!! I will agree that it would be wrong for public scools to make children say a specific prayer out loud but this isn't the case. It's a pledge of allegiance to the country, not to God himself. I've always seen it as tradition more than anything else. Just words, that all.

This is in our local news a lot since the guy who started it is from San Fran. When you hear this guy talk its obvious he's just some arogant asshole trying to make a name for himself by stirring up trouble. I can imagine his next move will be trying to get the "In God We Trust" off of our currency.

The whole situation kind of reminds me of a discussion I had with a Buddhist monk a while back. I had to go an interview monks at a local Thai Buddhist temple for a paper I was doing for an Eastern Religions class. At that time there was a bunch of controversy here in San Jose about a statue that was put up in the city's main park. It was meant to be a symbol of the city's Hispanic population and was of the snake god Queztacoatl. A group of fundamentalist Christians were protesting it saying it was evil and didn't belong in a public park. I asked the monks what they thought about it and they said the statue was only a piece of stone and as such had no capacity for evil. The only "evil" was what was being generated by those who were calling it "evil". For if they had not labled it as so, the "evil" would not exist. So, back to the issue at hand, the words "One nation under God" are only religious and/or offensive if the person stating or listening to them chooses them to be so. otherwise they are just words.



Does this make any sense or am I just rambling???

well you are rambing...but you do make alot of sense...the same rhetoric applies to "racism"/