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    HARD ON'S FIRST LST

    Hey HD. Comment/thought/R&D. I've been thinking of something and Rezinator's 'HST' really made me wonder about it. I think it'd work.

    How about if you put a light at the very right (or left) side of your grow. Or maybe all your lights (the more the better) and then allowed the plant to grow towards that light. You basically would be pulling it horizontally along your mesh towards the light. Causing it to stretch yes but as it did nodes would be forming along it's length and once you had it pulled across the entire width of the grow area, put the lights above it and yank those secondary growth shoots straight up! Mega bud sites and all would be just like the main cola. Just a thought.

    To go along with that I read where when the main cola is held down so it's basically lower than the rest of the growing shoots that the plant actually goes through a change where all the growth shoots receive the same message to grow the same as the main cola is supposed to. So that's something else to think about.
    Marc Benson Reviewed by Marc Benson on . HARD ON'S FIRST LST Ok.....I went with a scrog version of an LST. WTF is that you ask? I have no fucking idea, is my answer. But we shall see what happens :) 3 plants, all about 29 days old...pulled from the SOG as these were the slwest growers out of the bunch. Healthy just slow growers. Rating: 5

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    HARD ON'S FIRST LST

    INteresting thoughts there MB....

    I think making the plants grow TOWARDS the light would unfortunately sacrifice the direct light right on top of the secondaries which is really what I want to focus on.
    I understand your concept and in theory makes sense if I am growing anything other than tomatos

    As for the main head being lower than the rest of the plant....I have never thought of that. As it stands right now, I am so happy with the results.... I dont want the secondaries to grow up and tall right now. In a while yes, jsut not yet, as I am looking to get them broad leafed and numerous.

    I figure in 30 days they will encompass the entire screen and then.........

    I will try the lower head on one of them and compare

    Thanks for the ideas.

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    #3
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    HARD ON'S FIRST LST

    Two days later...

    The three headed one isnt growing secondaries at all, just getting longer. I suspect a topping is in order

    The other two are cranking away.... I suspect in 12 more days the screen will be covered.

    My others will still be in flower so I will prolly flower these with 5 2700K CFLs....just to see how those bulbs work.

    Will solve a lot of probs for peeps stuck with CFL....heat issues and height issues. Will be a good test for these newer bulbs

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    #4
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    HARD ON'S FIRST LST

    harddon can u top a plant a week an a half in2 flowerin r should i just leave it?
    my plants are all lokkin well, i am a bit shocked, i have 18, and unless im terribly mistaken not one is male..... weird is this possible?ill post pic later but as far as i can c they r lookin well, one has produced some nice buds, and this is the one i cut the fan leaves off? weird, all the rest have the right stuff for females and most u can tell straight away, one r 2 im not completly sure bout, but the nxt few days will reveal all, ill post a thread with the pics later and harddon will u give me ur verdict.
    peace.

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    #5
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    HARD ON'S FIRST LST

    I wouldn't top a plant in flower.

    Perhaps others would but I woul never attempt this...I don't see the benefits playing out like topping in veg.

    Just my own view.

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    #6
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    HARD ON'S FIRST LST

    I agree with HD. You top a plant to get the next two growing shoots to grow more so you have a two headed monster instead of one, but since you're not going to get much growth in flower (just stretching) it would seem like it wouldn't do much good.

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    #7
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    HARD ON'S FIRST LST

    thnxs again people, as always very helpfull, i have 2 post pics of them plants, one already looks like a little three with nuggets, lovely. and as i said as far as i can tell all r female, maybe they where all fem seeds i dont know, but i have looked after them.,i look 4word 2 ur verdict on the pics. thnxs 4 the advice again.
    its startin 2 get really busy out there a lot of work with 18 plants, but seein the buds startint 2 produce is fascinatin man, its deadly i cant wait 22 taste the flavour of my labour,lol
    marc hit me up with an email, wanna presnt u with an offer, hardddon ill mail u 2day
    red662athush.ai

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    #8
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    HARD ON'S FIRST LST

    Lesson #69

    When tieing your LST, leave room on the sides for the new growth to expand. The plants grow up, wide and out as well as longer.

    THey jumble up into ibg mass of leaves...looks like a small cabbage plant

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    #9
    Senior Member

    HARD ON'S FIRST LST

    Hi HD,

    please excuse my ignorance...but are u letting he plant grow up thru the screen itself, or are u helping the branches / leaves thru it ?

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    #10
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    HARD ON'S FIRST LST

    I let the plants grow first, then i placed the screen over it. Then I tied down the plants to the screen...

    Now i let it grow a bit, tie it down....

    let it grow a bit, tie it down...etc etc

    It goes to the very first node so all new growth is now on top of the screen. I use the screen also to tuck under the larger fan leaves.

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