Bat Wing shaders are decent. Any shader that hangs your bulb sideways are a better shader. For how much you will yield I cant really tell you. I have no idea what kinda set you have. Its definatly a good idea to not cheap out on your room. What ever money you put into you room spend wisely and will make alot better results. Good luck.

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another question, my little guys are about 1 ft there now i'm just waiting on my reflectors for the hps but what do u think of batwing reflectors for our style of growing? and that being said a tray (4x4) of 20 plants 1 ft veg flipped under a 1k hps with batwigs what kinda of yeild do u think i'll get roughly if everything goes well? I know it's hard to say but any ideas for a tray that size?? dry too