another question, my little guys are about 1 ft there now i'm just waiting on my reflectors for the hps but what do u think of batwing reflectors for our style of growing? and that being said a tray (4x4) of 20 plants 1 ft veg flipped under a 1k hps with batwigs what kinda of yeild do u think i'll get roughly if everything goes well? I know it's hard to say but any ideas for a tray that size?? dry too