"THE SEALED ROOM" 3lbs A LIGHT

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what up ive read this whole entire thread and im getting together my own system just like yours.. my only question is what my best bet would be to get enough clones to have 25 plants under each light. i know i'll have to start out with a lot less but im going to be starting from seed (mazar) and i was wondering what the best way to go about doing it was. this is what i was thinking: germinate and let the seeds go threw veg... take clones of all the veg phase then flower them all and see which are male/female etc.. then after i have hopefully about 5 females (the seeds are feminized) im going to make them mothers and put them under a 18/6 400 watt hps just to keep them in veg state for a long time. After that im wondering how i would go about getting the most clones otu of the mothers. if i take 2 clones from each mother every week while there in veg that will mean ill have 10 clones every week. now if i let those clones root and it takes 2 weeks the other clones will be behind and this will keep going on so i cant put them all into flowering at the same time if they are all weeks apart in there life. i know its confusing but its been killin me thinkin about it... so what im thinkin about doing is taking all the clones from the mothers and instead of putting them into flowering just keep putting them under tghe 18/6 hps light until i have about 30 of them then just cut them to all be the same height and every week take 1 clones from each one and have 30 clones . is it goin to work if all the mothers are just clones that are all older than eachother like that? because all the plants are going to different ages but if i keep them under the 400 watt hps for at least 18 hours a day i know they will stay in veg. is that the only way ill be able to get 30 clones a week?

[Cyrano]

does this tranoble strain have an other name? It sorta looks like power plant. I could not find it on the net.

Also, did i see that micro/grow/bloom correct...almost 2liters for a 50gal res?

[noruas]

Well, I Measured my promix runoff and it was 2000 PPM.

Plants were very unhappy this time around, I flushed them real good, but it compacted the containers so much, that I think this crop is all but ruined. The Promix compacted about 2+ inches when I flushes to rid the high PPM!!

Thanks for the heads up Tranoble, I guess I have always cut the promix with organic soils in the past, never done straight promix HP


I am using Promix HP (white bag)

[dusto2k3]

Tranoble, I see you say you strip the bottome inches off the plants at day 10...do you see a decrease in yield by doing this. I have a very similay setup to you and i am a little curious.

[Tranoble]

I find when you strip off the bottom 4-6 branches at day 10 that the tops are much bigger. This allso gets rid of alot of waste on the bottoms of the plant. My plants are so crammed that the bottom branches dont get much light and are pretty much waste any way. Try it out you will see your buds are much bigger in the end. Not really any small buds that got to waste after drying. My ziplock bags are stuffed and find it hard to close the bag cause they are so full.

Tranoble, I see you say you strip the bottome inches off the plants at day 10...do you see a decrease in yield by doing this. I have a very similay setup to you and i am a little curious.

[Tranoble]

I have never grown from seed. I think i understand what you are saying but you wont beable to grom plants in different stages while growing in tables. I guess you couse do it if you were growing in buckets but you would have to keep them seperste and keep track of what stage there in if you use different food schedual for every week. Why dont you buy your clones and grow them all at the same time. Then if you want to do mothers take cuttings off the bottom branches before you flip them into bud. Then you will have enough mothers to take clones from for your next time round. Good Luck.

what up ive read this whole entire thread and im getting together my own system just like yours.. my only question is what my best bet would be to get enough clones to have 25 plants under each light. i know i'll have to start out with a lot less but im going to be starting from seed (mazar) and i was wondering what the best way to go about doing it was. this is what i was thinking: germinate and let the seeds go threw veg... take clones of all the veg phase then flower them all and see which are male/female etc.. then after i have hopefully about 5 females (the seeds are feminized) im going to make them mothers and put them under a 18/6 400 watt hps just to keep them in veg state for a long time. After that im wondering how i would go about getting the most clones otu of the mothers. if i take 2 clones from each mother every week while there in veg that will mean ill have 10 clones every week. now if i let those clones root and it takes 2 weeks the other clones will be behind and this will keep going on so i cant put them all into flowering at the same time if they are all weeks apart in there life. i know its confusing but its been killin me thinkin about it... so what im thinkin about doing is taking all the clones from the mothers and instead of putting them into flowering just keep putting them under tghe 18/6 hps light until i have about 30 of them then just cut them to all be the same height and every week take 1 clones from each one and have 30 clones . is it goin to work if all the mothers are just clones that are all older than eachother like that? because all the plants are going to different ages but if i keep them under the 400 watt hps for at least 18 hours a day i know they will stay in veg. is that the only way ill be able to get 30 clones a week?

[houdini]

Hi Tranoble. I read your thread. Very interesting, a lot of good info. My setup is aeroponic, 6 x 33 site tables under 6000 watts of light (one for each table) using adjustable reflectors with a light spreader under each bulb. I needed to move my grow op. for security reasons and am now going for a sealed environment. I have 10Kw of A/c installed. My concerns were for co2 usage, which I don't have experience with. I'm going to buy a burner with a pilot light as I can't locate blu-ox over here (Europe). Its not a big deal since the gen. will be outside the growroom, the room being tubefed. This keeps growroom heat down and imo its much safer to have propane/burner at a distance. You mention that you use 2 x 20lb tanks per grow. That seems pretty reasonable. I've done my co2 calculations, but the variable is plant consumption. What you are indicating is that co2 use is not that huge once the room is up to the desired ppm ?
I noticed you had an air scrubber listed in your equipment. This is something else I will need to install in my grow. Smell suppression is very important in my new home. How big a scrubber/fan do you use in yr. room ? Does it entirely suppress smell ?
A word about AN : I tried them a couple of years ago...the full program recommended by their website. Hugely expensive, like $1000 in nutes for a grow ! I honestly didn't see an improvement on the GH nutes I normally use.

[houdini]

Oh, one more thing, Tranoble. My non-enhanced co2 flowering times are 55-60 days. Given that co2 significantly increases plant metabolism, how shorter is the flowering time ?
Comment on your yield : Amazing yield for dirt. Well done. My aero setup, per table of 33 plants, will usually yield me with 50 grams per plant (2 oz). of dried bud. Thats nearly 1.6 kilos (or 3.5 lbs) per 1000w light. How do I do it ? Simple. The right genetics, right environment, right nutes, right pruning of plants, right grow system. I end up with a plant which has five main branches, is about 2.5 feet tall, with colas 4 inches across (genetics I use are big bud - a special mother found among 100 bb plants and NL#5, again a good yielder.) I'm really curious as to how much more I can push growth with co2.

[Tranoble]

Im not sure what size scrubber you should use. I would ask your hydroponic store. The one I use is good for upto 40 1000w lights. Its the biggest one i could find. It works great for killing smell. Cant smell a thing. Using a pilot light will give off Co2 while your lights are off. You dont want to give your plants Co2 while your plants are in the dark. When your lights first come on is when you use the most Co2 then once your room fills to the PPM you have set then it kicks on and off to keep it steady.

Hi Tranoble. I read your thread. Very interesting, a lot of good info. My setup is aeroponic, 6 x 33 site tables under 6000 watts of light (one for each table) using adjustable reflectors with a light spreader under each bulb. I needed to move my grow op. for security reasons and am now going for a sealed environment. I have 10Kw of A/c installed. My concerns were for co2 usage, which I don't have experience with. I'm going to buy a burner with a pilot light as I can't locate blu-ox over here (Europe). Its not a big deal since the gen. will be outside the growroom, the room being tubefed. This keeps growroom heat down and imo its much safer to have propane/burner at a distance. You mention that you use 2 x 20lb tanks per grow. That seems pretty reasonable. I've done my co2 calculations, but the variable is plant consumption. What you are indicating is that co2 use is not that huge once the room is up to the desired ppm ?
I noticed you had an air scrubber listed in your equipment. This is something else I will need to install in my grow. Smell suppression is very important in my new home. How big a scrubber/fan do you use in yr. room ? Does it entirely suppress smell ?
A word about AN : I tried them a couple of years ago...the full program recommended by their website. Hugely expensive, like $1000 in nutes for a grow ! I honestly didn't see an improvement on the GH nutes I normally use.

[houdini]

Tranoble, thanks. o.k. re. the scrubber. For yr. info. my co2 gen. and propane bottle will be in a concrete garage 12 ft. from my growroom. So no worries. I don't think the fact that a pilot light generates co2 is a big deal. Ambient co2 in greater or lesser concentrations exists naturally in the atmosphere. IMO the bigger problem with a pilot light is the actual light it gives off in a dark growroom, posing a problem for complete darkness.