i gave up another gallon of my cold milk, but trust me everytime i gave a plant some i drank some ;], anyways i tied em down as much as i could, i found a store today thats hella close and they got bat shit , so ima try it ;] ill keep you posted tommrow with new pics:jointsmile: then see where the bat shit takes me i donno there gettin so big my nighbor grows and i seee his charlie brown xmas tress lmfao