synthetic urine...is it detectable?

[zomwoman]

hello and thanks to all for advise on passing initial drug test..via substitution of friend's urine. now i find we have random drug test and i'm wondering if anyone could advise on the use of synthetic urine and it's reliability. or any other measures one might take in a random sitution.
much thanks for any suggestions/know about..

zomwoman Reviewed by zomwoman on 09-13-2005. synthetic urine...is it detectable? hello and thanks to all for advise on passing initial drug test..via substitution of friend's urine. now i find we have random drug test and i'm wondering if anyone could advise on the use of synthetic urine and it's reliability. or any other measures one might take in a random sitution. much thanks for any suggestions/know about..:) Rating: 5

[PerfectUrine]

hello and thanks to all for advise on passing initial drug test..via substitution of friend's urine. now i find we have random drug test and i'm wondering if anyone could advise on the use of synthetic urine and it's reliability. or any other measures one might take in a random sitution.
much thanks for any suggestions/know about..

The difference between synthetic and human urine samples is lgG, which is a component unique only to human urine. Unlike creatine, lgG must be found in the urine specimen being tested or it will result in non-human urine on a drug test. It depends what the sample is being tested for, but most labs now test to make sure that the sample is from a human source.

Your best bet would be to store a real human urine sample until needed. Frozen Human urine samples can maintain integrity for up to a year. There are many companies on the web that offer pre-tested samples...(perfecturine.com)

[Bender]

Your best bet would be to store a real human urine sample until needed. Frozen Human urine samples can maintain integrity for up to a year. There are many companies on the web that offer pre-tested samples...(perfecturine.com)

I agree... I have failed useing other stuff but for the last 3 test I have used this method and have had no problems. BUT I'm not sure how this would work for random testing...

[Burnt Toast]

The difference between synthetic and human urine samples is lgG, which is a component unique only to human urine. Unlike creatine, lgG must be found in the urine specimen being tested or it will result in non-human urine on a drug test. It depends what the sample is being tested for, but most labs now test to make sure that the sample is from a human source

IgG is NOT part of drug testing/validity testing protocols. Sure there are dipsticks available to check for the presence of IgG, but under Federal US law, validity testing requires confirmation complete with quantitive amounts reported. Since quantitive values for IgG are impossible without using complicated and expensive testing (such as DNA), its therefore illegal in the US for labs to conduct IgG, or any other form of genetic testing on samples unless there is written authorization from the donor. US labs are only allowed to test for drug metabolites, creatnine, specific gravity, ph, and nitrites.

[PerfectUrine]

IgG is NOT part of drug testing/validity testing protocols. Sure there are dipsticks available to check for the presence of IgG, but under Federal US law, validity testing requires confirmation complete with quantitive amounts reported. Since quantitive values for IgG are impossible without using complicated and expensive testing (such as DNA), its therefore illegal in the US for labs to conduct IgG, or any other form of genetic testing on samples unless there is written authorization from the donor. US labs are only allowed to test for drug metabolites, creatnine, specific gravity, ph, and nitrites.

Your 100% correct. It depends on what KIND of drug test you are taking. Always read what your signing.

[lizka4200]

can they tell if its a guy spee and ur a girl?

[Burnt Toast]

can they tell if its a guy spee and ur a girl?

No they cant. They would have to perform a genetic test, which is illegal unless the donor gives written permission on a completely seperate and explicit consent form. That means no hidden clauses or any other cute little tactics to trick the donor into signing.

[carlkurtz2009]

If real urine is better and works 100% of the time, then why does the synthetic stuff cost more. I would assume the more it costs, the more reliable it it.

So far the poll I posted today says that more people have passed with synthetic then with real. Why are there so many conflicting stories? This is why I created the poll, so we can get an idea of which one has worked for the most people. After reading hundreds of posts last night, I would say it was a 50/50 answer so I wanted to have an annonymous poll. Hopefully we get one of the three that has many more votes then the others.

If you have used either or both, please vote on the poll I created in the Drug Testing forum. If you want to make a comment about it, please use the thread above it to share your experience.

[Burnt Toast]

Sure there are dipsticks available to check for the presence of IgG,

As that post was made 4 years ago, nearly all medical distributorships have since pulled the IgG dipstick from the market.

[Burnt Toast]

If real urine is better and works 100% of the time, then why does the synthetic stuff cost more.

What makes you think this? Real urine is not always better. With real urine, you have to be really sure that the person youve got it from is indeed drug-free (that includes scripted and OTC meds to avoid hassles from the MRO). Plus you have to be sure that the person has not drank a bunch of fluids prior to giving you the sample for sub (which can lead to a "too-dilute" test result).

Human urine also has a shorter shelf life than synthetic. Synthetic urines can be stored at room temp for much longer periods of time (up to 2 years) than human urine.

And as far as cost goes, theres online vendors that sell dehydrated urine at a higher price than most synthetics on the market.