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	09-12-2005, 02:50 AM #1 OPSenior Member OPSenior Member
 christ hard onhard on, honestly how the fuck do you do it man? i try and i try and i try and my plants dont look nearly that good in fucking 3 weeks to your fukn 3 days lol dud drop me a line help me out or something man wow gimme some pointers here. 
 
 thankscptweedmanguy Reviewed by cptweedmanguy on . christ hard on hard on, honestly how the fuck do you do it man? i try and i try and i try and my plants dont look nearly that good in fucking 3 weeks to your fukn 3 days lol dud drop me a line help me out or something man wow gimme some pointers here. thanks Rating: 5guys......... my balls.....
 
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	09-12-2005, 04:14 AM #2 Senior Member Senior Member
 christ hard onah thats very kind of you weedmale....  
 
 But really the personal 'art' of it doesn't begin to play a role until about 3 weeks....
 
 The basics are fundamental 2 + 2 = 4 everytime.
 
 1. PRO MIX SOIL
 2. 6.8 pH water
 3. Lights
 
 Thats it man. Its tuff to fuck that up 
 
 It's all 3 working in unison. The biggest factor though is lights.
 
 You need true CFL's not the kind you buy in the stores. You need some 5500K - 6400K bulbs and several of them.
 
 Keep a fan on them and let them be.
 
 Thanks again for the kind words but I learned a lot of it here from Zandor and a little bit from everyone else.
 
 Both successes and failures leave clues.
 
 Everytime  
 
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	09-19-2005, 12:23 AM #3 Senior Member Senior Member
 christ hard onHard, 
 
 How much do those CFL's like you've got cost?
 
 And can they be gotten locally? Home Depot I mean.?
 
 tks
 
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	09-19-2005, 01:59 AM #4 Senior Member Senior Member
 christ hard onThe big ones are $60.00 each i think. 
 
 Only online is where I know to get them.
 
 Certainly not HD or any other general store.
 
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	09-19-2005, 03:41 AM #5 Senior Member Senior Member
 christ hard onI found some today at a local farm and barn store but they had a mogul base. 65watts. $10! Said they were 4000 lumens. Didn't see the base for them but I believe these were made for specific light fixtures. I'll look next time I'm out there just for shits and giggles. Maybe the bases are cheap too! 
 
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	09-25-2005, 09:54 AM #6 Senior Member Senior Member
 christ hard onhey marc..i think you bought a 10 dollar bulb,that has no ballast, I did it too.... 
 the bulb is made foran outdoor pole light correct? check the box ,it will say it needs a ballast...inless you got one hell of a bargain..
 
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	09-25-2005, 10:04 AM #7 Senior Member Senior Member
 christ hard oni think this is what Hardon is speaking of... 
 
 http://homeharvest.com/hydrofarmcompactfluorescents.htm
 
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	09-25-2005, 12:49 PM #8 Senior Member Senior Member
 christ hard onI didn't buy that bulb. Read the description first and saw it needed a ballast. All I said was that I found one...but it needed a specific base/ballast. Originally Posted by the mole Originally Posted by the mole
 
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	09-25-2005, 02:14 PM #9 Senior Member Senior Member
 christ hard onyou are smart man, Mr marc... 
 
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	09-26-2005, 06:27 AM #10 Senior Member Senior Member
 christ hard onhttp://www.naturallighting.com/store...?&parent_id=39 
 
 I got the 65W 6400K one. The guy responds to emails and ships it like there's no tomorow. The light really made a difference. I do, however, want to try getting the ones with a ballast like Limpy over there and try to see a difference. Digital cameras are great for telling differences with lights. Goodluck. Goodluck.
 
 Also I had paid like $40 for it after shipping so I dunno what kinda shipping I got, but it came pretty fucking fast.
 
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