Dunno if this help but heres a little tip you you Epic, before you even start to roll the joint have a little cardboard filter all ready rolled up just hold it in ya mouth untill its time to use it, when your rolling the joint roll the paper around afew times to get the shape you want also it'll help tighten up the herb..insert the filter then roll it and lick when ya stickin the gum part onto the rest of the paper be sure to roll it extra tight on the filter end... let the gum dry then give it a roll between ya thumb and other fingers that'll help fill in any empty spots you may have in the joint

good luck with the rolling