goth and punk are somewhat alike
IMO, punks pretty much dead.
bands like the casualties make shitty music, and wear mowhawks... and they expect to be called punk. It's like that scene from slc punk , where's he's talking to the girl and she says , that's not punk... that's fashion :-(

it's sad to say, but it's true

my dad hates people like this, because my dad was actually a origninal punker and played in a fairly known punk band that was on the "Punk Rock DVD" which included bands like the ramones, dead boys, and stuff :-)

yeah i like to brag, but you would too if your dad was a ex-punker in a somewhat well known band...