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    #11
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    Stained by corruption

    we all know corruption doesn't exist...sounds like a conspiracy to me...

    i've never said our military industrial complex are the only criminals...i've routinely said that mi5/mi6/fsb/mossad are equally as corrupt and in bed with each other.

    they all use problem/reaction/solution to guide their countries towards dictatorship and more government control.

    i'm not going to point the finger at everyone else when there's issues going on here at home.

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    #12
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    Stained by corruption

    Quote Originally Posted by bhallg2k
    Quite right. Not one drop.

    But didn't W. say that Iraqi oil would finance Iraqi reconstruction?

    What ha-happened? Why we still payin'?
    What happened? Foreign insurgents blowing up the lines. You know how much revenue has been lost due to these actions? If I recall there was a letter from Osama to Zarqawi that instructed him to go after the oil infustructure.

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    #13
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    Stained by corruption

    Quote Originally Posted by Psycho4Bud
    What happened? Foreign insurgents blowing up the lines. You know how much revenue has been lost due to these actions? If I recall there was a letter from Osama to Zarqawi that instructed him to go after the oil infustructure.
    Shouldn't there have been a plan for that, being that it's so obvious those things would happen?

    Oh, wait. W. doesn't plan for things.

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    #14
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    Stained by corruption

    Quote Originally Posted by bhallg2k
    Shouldn't there have been a plan for that, being that it's so obvious those things would happen?

    Oh, wait. W. doesn't plan for things.
    Check this out once. It has all the different insurgent attacks and at the bottom has a map of Iraq with the lines. How do you protect every last mile of this??

    http://www.iags.org/iraqpipelinewatch.htm

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    #15
    Senior Member

    Stained by corruption

    Obviously, you can't. Protecting pipelines in Iraq would be like protecting telephone lines in the US. The problem is the people behind the war never forsaw this happening, even though it is so obvious in hindsite, and to those of of not brainwashed to believe government propaganda, obvious in foresite. Do you don't see the dichotomy? Iraq has all these horrible weapons, and yet this will be easy? Both cannot be true, and of course neither was. Good thing too, imagine if they hadn't been lying, and all those weapons really existed. Where would they be now? Likely in the hands of Zarqawi (or however it's spelled) This talk of "democracy" is equally nonsense. The Iraqi elections came at the insistence of Sistani, over the objections of the US, who assumed their boy Chalabi would simply take over. Funny, they tell you one lie, get caught, tell another, and you fall for it again! Damn, if my girlfriend was that gullible, I'd be getting some pussy right now.
    \"Rightful liberty is unobstructed action according to our will, within limits drawn by the equal rights of others. I do not add \"within the limits of the law\', because law if often but the tyrant\'s will, and always so when it violates the rights of the individual.\"-Thomas Jefferson.

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    #16
    Senior Member

    Stained by corruption

    Quote Originally Posted by Psycho4Bud
    Check this out once. It has all the different insurgent attacks and at the bottom has a map of Iraq with the lines. How do you protect every last mile of this??

    http://www.iags.org/iraqpipelinewatch.htm
    I don't think you can protect every last mile of pipeline. W should've been aware of that, too. There should have been proper planning, rather than giving everyone the rosy scenario that Iraqi oil would pay for Iraqi reconstruction.

    Just further evidence that this administration is totally inept at any facet of government other than playing politics.

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    #17
    Senior Member

    Stained by corruption

    Quote Originally Posted by Psycho4Bud
    What happened? Foreign insurgents blowing up the lines. You know how much revenue has been lost due to these actions? If I recall there was a letter from Osama to Zarqawi that instructed him to go after the oil infustructure.

    osama must have been writing an email from the basement of bush's ranch

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    #18
    Senior Member

    Stained by corruption

    Quote Originally Posted by andruejaysin
    Obviously, you can't. Protecting pipelines in Iraq would be like protecting telephone lines in the US. The problem is the people behind the war never forsaw this happening, even though it is so obvious in hindsite, and to those of of not brainwashed to believe government propaganda, obvious in foresite. Do you don't see the dichotomy? Iraq has all these horrible weapons, and yet this will be easy? Both cannot be true, and of course neither was. Good thing too, imagine if they hadn't been lying, and all those weapons really existed. Where would they be now? Likely in the hands of Zarqawi (or however it's spelled) This talk of "democracy" is equally nonsense. The Iraqi elections came at the insistence of Sistani, over the objections of the US, who assumed their boy Chalabi would simply take over. Funny, they tell you one lie, get caught, tell another, and you fall for it again! Damn, if my girlfriend was that gullible, I'd be getting some pussy right now.

    the most brilliant post in this thread so far...

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    #19
    Senior Member

    Stained by corruption

    Quote Originally Posted by bhallg2k
    I don't think you can protect every last mile of pipeline. W should've been aware of that, too. There should have been proper planning, rather than giving everyone the rosy scenario that Iraqi oil would pay for Iraqi reconstruction.

    Just further evidence that this administration is totally inept at any facet of government other than playing politics.

    i seem to remember major combat operations would be over within a few weeks.


    i guess bombing buildings with children and elderly women dont count as major...



    oh...and the insurgents re-took a key city the other day....

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    #20
    Senior Member

    Stained by corruption

    Strategy 101, figure out what it is your enemy wants, and prevent him from obtaining it.
    \"Rightful liberty is unobstructed action according to our will, within limits drawn by the equal rights of others. I do not add \"within the limits of the law\', because law if often but the tyrant\'s will, and always so when it violates the rights of the individual.\"-Thomas Jefferson.

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