Quote Originally Posted by GHoSToKeR
Ah, okay, I see. I don't believe the government should be involved at all, so yeah, on that we agree. So I guess I do think same-sex marriages should be legalised. But I still don't think it makes sense for gay couples to want to get married in a church. I'm an atheist and I wouldn't want to get married in a church for the simple fact that the Church wouldn't want me to get married in it.
Yes, many gay people dont care much for marriage but many denominations are allowing gay marriage now, and this trend is surely to continue. I dont think gay people want to force churches to allow gay marriage, they just dont want second-class status by having their marriage called a "civil union". Many gay people are Christian as well, and they re-interpret the bible verses that condemn homosexuality.

Some Christians will say that gay couples can have all the rights that straight people do, but dont think it should be called marriage, because a "marriage means a lifelong commitent betwen a man and women with the intention of starting a family, and thats the way its been for thousands of years" This isnt a very convincing argument, in my opinion. For one thing, the definition of marriage has evolved considerably since the feminist movement. Would you call a union in which a man beats his wife everyday, uses her for sex, and expects her to be a servant, a marriage? Well, this is what "marriage" was for thousands of years. What about polygamy, which was practiced for thousands of years and called "marriage"? Not even many Christians today would call these unions marriage. To me, at the core a marriage means two people wanting to spend their entire lives together simply because they truly love eachother, Why put so much focus on the gender definition, when marriage means so much more.