Troops in Iraq

[NowhereMan]

I like Nietzsche's view that Power is Good and Weakness is Evil. If the Iraqis don't want us there, they should make us leave. Weakness is wrong, not Iraqis or Muslims or terrorists or anything else.

so anyone stronger can just do what they want to the weaker

not cool

as far as im concerned we helped saddam back then
and we took him out ,
job done,bring em home
fuck thier civil disobedience problems
bring our troops home

[Az.]

so anyone stronger can just do what they want to the weaker

not cool

as far as im concerned we helped saddam back then
and we took him out ,
job done,bring em home
fuck thier civil disobedience problems
bring our troops home

I agree

[ermitonto]

I like Nietzsche's view that Power is Good and Weakness is Evil. If the Iraqis don't want us there, they should make us leave. Weakness is wrong, not Iraqis or Muslims or terrorists or anything else.

According to that logic, the Holocaust was good because the Nazis were in power at the time. And the slave trade must have been completely justified too, because, hey, those Africans weren't taking over the white men with guns when they were chained up on those boats. And I guess Mussolini must have beed perfectly right in using Ethiopians as target practice for his troops, since after all, the Italian Army had control of Ethiopia and the Ethiopians weren't kicking them out with their bows and arrows. And the Native Americans are clearly to blame for the fact that they're nearly extinct as a result of history's most successful genocide, because they weren't powerful enough to stop the diseases and bullets they were being delivered. Way to go, Machiavelli.

[Smokey McPot]

WE are not running their country number one. Number two, the Iraqi government has the choice on when we depart. You would want to see this country handed over to extremists or Al-Quada?

right on. I dont give a fuck about those people over there. all i am saying is if we dont guide them they will jut turn into some terrorist ruled country and attack the US.

I dont think Bush is an awesome president. I think he fucks up alot but we do need to make sure those crazy bastard terrorists dont attack us.

[Mojavpa]

We should leave immediately, or at least began a gradual withdrawal. People dont realize that our military presence there is giving fuel to the insurgency.

[daZenfmeister]

Wow you'd think that a website about POT would have more pacifists. Times have really changed.

[Torog]

Who here thinks the US should pull the troops out of Iraq and let those crazy bastards do what ever they want to do?

Howdy Smokey,

I voted no..I wish that we could trust that the middle-east would git more democratic on it's own..but we can't. Also,Israel is our ally,and we will not abandon them to the jihadists,who wish that Israel would be destroyed and every Jew murdered. If we abandoned Israel,then they would be forced to use every weapon in their arsenal,to survive..given that the Israeli's posses every NBC weapon that ya can think of..it could spark WW3.

You must never forget--that the arab world will always seek the complete and total destruction of Israel,as well as the murder of every Jew. It is a goal that they will never give up on,as long as Islam and the arab world, continues to demand Israel's destruction.

Have a good one ....

[BrownFloyd]

Hi,

My first time posting here.

I have been visiting this website for a couple of days now, and the forum here is not so bad. After reading serval threads on different topics including this one, I was quite surprised by many comments wich seemed a bit ignorant (no offense to anyone), but then I realized that there are probably many teens on this site, and it is normal to witness some comments from teens who are simply uninformed. Im not too old myself (21).

I don't intend to come here accusing anyone or to flame, I would just like to give an opinion from a Canadian living in Quebec, wich would give you guys an unbiased opinion on the events in the world today.

I think we are currently in World War 3. The war going on right now is affecting the entire world. This war wich is called "War on terrorism" has 3 major role players. Each of them are EVIL. None of them are good or fighting for a good cause, but rather in it's own intrest. Those 3 major role players are the USA, Israel and the Terrorist. (Now keep in mind, when I say USA, I dont mean Americans, but rather the Bush Administration. When I say Isreal, again the leaders of the country not Isrealis or Jews... And when I say Terrorists I dont mean all Arabs or Middle Easterns.)

What ever opinions you have on middle easterns or arabs, you can feel that there is alot of hate torwards the U.S.A. Isn't that why 9/11 happend, because of hate ? So why do they hate the U.S so much.

The USA are the cause for this bloody mess. The hate they get is because of theire Bullying the world speically in the arab world. Because they are hungry capitalists who exploit them for theire oil. Because of unjustified support torwards Isreal who is a threat to the middle east. Those are the exact reasons of why the USA are getting so much hate from the Arab world and also the rest of the world. Don't buy into they hate just because we are americans or because they hate the lifestyle in America.

Isreal. I don't want to get into this topic because it is quite complexe. But the whole world knows this, Isreal is occupying a territory. This is approved by the rest of the world excpet for Isrealis and some Americans.

The Terrorists. In the screwed up mind of theirs, they fail to realize that they are killing innocent civilians. They are not helping theire cause, and making things worst.

So who benefits form this war ?

The Bush administration because they are making $$$$$$$ off of this war, at the cost of innocent people, American soldiers and at the same time putting the whole country into debt.

Isreal because by having the Americans invade Iraq, they have one of theire biggest rivals being weakened. If the USA were to attack Iran, they would also be the ones who would benefit. The USA supports Isreal having nukes but not Iran, while it is clear to the rest of the world that Isreal is the biggest threat in the Middle east not Iran.

Terrorist leaders. Terrorists who attacked on 9/11 were Saoudis not Iraqis. The USA ivaded Iraq using the pretext " Saddam has WMD ". When proved wrong, the administration changed that to " Free the Iraqi people". Its all propaganda, and you are falling for it. They use these pretexts just to get more money off of oil. Now by attacking Iraq, it created Terrorists there. The Terrorists leaders benefited from alot of recruting because of the war.

There is no way out of this mess, it will get nasty and dirty. People are going to die and this will last for decades. Decades of bloodshed around the globe.

Propaganda is the most powerful tool in the world today. Alot of you are victims of it.

Future is not bright my friends, good luck !

[shiva]

jeeze,ya know as an American,and a liberal my vote has to go to aarrrrrggggg!!!!!!Decisions,decisions.Look,there were no weapons of mass destruction,(I have posted this before)There HAS ALWAYS BEEN A CAMPAIGN TO OVERTHROW SADAM HUSSAIN SINCE the first Bush has been in office.Now =, even as a liberal I have to ssay it is to late to pull out now.Now do I like that ?NO,do I like the Idea that there are kids,KIDS over there getting blown up because of weapons of mass destruction,no.But I had only one vote,it was cast,and Kerry lost,not by a landslide!Without getting too deep and wanting to tear up the computer,I will say this about any american who supports this bullshit,since it is an all volenteer army,then all those who support the war, go to iraq and take someone's place who want's to come home.All those who do not support the war,well pray for those who do.F.Y.I. anyone who can find me a politician who has a son or daughter over there i'd like to know.

[Torog]

Hi,

My first time posting here.

I have been visiting this website for a couple of days now, and the forum here is not so bad. After reading serval threads on different topics including this one, I was quite surprised by many comments wich seemed a bit ignorant (no offense to anyone), but then I realized that there are probably many teens on this site, and it is normal to witness some comments from teens who are simply uninformed. Im not too old myself (21).

I don't intend to come here accusing anyone or to flame, I would just like to give an opinion from a Canadian living in Quebec, wich would give you guys an unbiased opinion on the events in the world today.

I think we are currently in World War 3. The war going on right now is affecting the entire world. This war wich is called "War on terrorism" has 3 major role players. Each of them are EVIL. None of them are good or fighting for a good cause, but rather in it's own intrest. Those 3 major role players are the USA, Israel and the Terrorist. (Now keep in mind, when I say USA, I dont mean Americans, but rather the Bush Administration. When I say Isreal, again the leaders of the country not Isrealis or Jews... And when I say Terrorists I dont mean all Arabs or Middle Easterns.)

What ever opinions you have on middle easterns or arabs, you can feel that there is alot of hate torwards the U.S.A. Isn't that why 9/11 happend, because of hate ? So why do they hate the U.S so much.

The USA are the cause for this bloody mess. The hate they get is because of theire Bullying the world speically in the arab world. Because they are hungry capitalists who exploit them for theire oil. Because of unjustified support torwards Isreal who is a threat to the middle east. Those are the exact reasons of why the USA are getting so much hate from the Arab world and also the rest of the world. Don't buy into they hate just because we are americans or because they hate the lifestyle in America.

Isreal. I don't want to get into this topic because it is quite complexe. But the whole world knows this, Isreal is occupying a territory. This is approved by the rest of the world excpet for Isrealis and some Americans.

The Terrorists. In the screwed up mind of theirs, they fail to realize that they are killing innocent civilians. They are not helping theire cause, and making things worst.

So who benefits form this war ?

The Bush administration because they are making $$$$$$$ off of this war, at the cost of innocent people, American soldiers and at the same time putting the whole country into debt.

Isreal because by having the Americans invade Iraq, they have one of theire biggest rivals being weakened. If the USA were to attack Iran, they would also be the ones who would benefit. The USA supports Isreal having nukes but not Iran, while it is clear to the rest of the world that Isreal is the biggest threat in the Middle east not Iran.

Terrorist leaders. Terrorists who attacked on 9/11 were Saoudis not Iraqis. The USA ivaded Iraq using the pretext " Saddam has WMD ". When proved wrong, the administration changed that to " Free the Iraqi people". Its all propaganda, and you are falling for it. They use these pretexts just to get more money off of oil. Now by attacking Iraq, it created Terrorists there. The Terrorists leaders benefited from alot of recruting because of the war.

There is no way out of this mess, it will get nasty and dirty. People are going to die and this will last for decades. Decades of bloodshed around the globe.

Propaganda is the most powerful tool in the world today. Alot of you are victims of it.

Future is not bright my friends, good luck !

Howdy Brown,

America didn't cause this mess..the un-provoked attack on the Twin Towers,Pentagon and the attempt against the White House,and the subsequent murder of over 3 thousand,innocent people..is what started this 'mess'.

As for Israel,we support them and are allied with them,because they were the only democracy in the region,until we helped the Iraqi's and the Afghani's,choose democracy. You act as if a brutally oppressive,fundy islamofascist goverment,that's counter to individual rights and freedoms,is a viable and acceptable alternative..it is not. Such goverments,are no longer viable and acceptable,in the Free World..and represent both a strategic and a tactical threat,to the stability of the middle-east and the Free World. Also,Israel,has both a Biblical right to it's land's and a right to those which it won,in response to the illegal attacks against Israel,by arab goverments.

If Bush and his admin,are filling their pocket's with cash..how come there's no news reports on it ?

Do you support democracy..or islamofascism ? When you side with the terrorist's,you are choosing islamofascism. When you choose to fight against them..you are choosing freedom and democracy..for all..it's really just that simple..the terrorists and jihadists,don't offer freedom,in return for your support..they offer either death or forced conversion to Islam and the assumption of dhimmini status..slavery and second-class citizenship.

You are more than welcome,to come on down to the politics forum and discuss this issue,in greater detail.

Have a good one ...