Religion(kinda wat happens when you die?) question

[Warlock]

So your faith is fear-motivated you say? Fear of being uncomfortable over the idea that you're not that important?


Typical.

That's what christianity is based on.

[Warlock]

crab people, crab people, look like crab and talk like people....

I can't believe in my stoned state I actually Googled lord Narork, my bad.

[Stedric]

I can't believe in my stoned state I actually Googled lord Narork, my bad.

Out of curiousity, are you a Satanist?

And yes I know the difference between the Southern Baptist definition of Satanist and what a Satanist actually is.

[ermitonto]

well it feels great to know that he's there waiting for me. Waiting in fear for your life to just END, sucks a big fat weener. I could enevr stand that shit. I'm glad I was raised the way I was.

Once Mark Twain was asked if he feared death. He said that he did not, in view of the fact that he had been dead for billions and billions of years before he was born, and had not suffered the slightest inconvenience from it.

I'm not afraid of death, because if there really is nothing to experience after death, which I strongly suspect (to me it just doesn't make any more sense to say consciousness can outlive the brain than it does to say that heartbeat can outlive the heart), then I will have no emotions and will not be able to care about the fact that I'm dead. If there really is something after death, and all the evidence that suggests consciousness is the product of our mortal brains is nothing but an illusion, then it seems we are not meant to know what it is during our lifetimes, and any speculations about other dimensions and new lives is unsubstantiated wishful thinking.

The Christian idea of Heaven and Hell seems completely ridiculous to me for a few reasons. First of all, the whole idea of Hell (eternal punishment) goes against the idea of forgiveness which Christians claim to embrace. It seems that forgiveness only lasts until you are dead, at which point your good deeds and bad deeds are tallied up in some cosmic computer or something which calculates whether you pass the goodness threshhold for admittance into Heaven. After that point forgiveness is a meaningless concept; in Hell everybody is branded as evil for their sins and they all suffer the exact same punishment of eternal burning, no matter whether they killed 6 million Jews or just said something bad about the Holy Ghost.

Meanwhile, in another invisible part of the universe nobody has ever been able to find with any telescope, other "souls" who happened to accept Jesus are all rewarded indiscriminately with eternal happiness (except for the eternal pain of knowing many of their loved ones are being tortured forever). According to Christian dogma, it doesn't matter if you're the Pope or you've been sinning your whole life but "found Jesus" just before you died, you get a ticket to eternal bliss (unless you said something bad about the Holy Ghost, in which case it's Hell no matter how many years you serve as Pope or how hard you try to find Jesus).

[F L E S H]

If you truly think you are wise, accept that you know nothing at all.

Right now I'm more worried about whats going to happen before I die.

Well said. Don't waste time thinking about death. Live your life now, enjoy it, and be happy. That's all that really matters. What happens after you die is completely, utterly irrelevant.

[Warlock]

Out of curiousity, are you a Satanist?

And yes I know the difference between the Southern Baptist definition of Satanist and what a Satanist actually is.

No I'm not, I have read a lot of Anton Laveys books though. I just hate Christians.

[beachguy in thongs]

I just hate Christians.

Why don't you just come out and say one of two things. You hate a majority of humanity, or you hate Jesus Christ, because I could never bring myself to say either one.

[Warlock]

I can't hate something that doesn't exist, & no... I don't hate the majority of humanity. Only christian scum.

[weirdo79]

Here let me rephrase for warlock (hopefully I dont take too many liberties sorry If I do warlock)

He doesnt hate christians so much as anyone who believes in their complete rightness and have such a conviction that they are right. DESPITE the fact their is 0 evidence for Jesus...(which is akin to naming someone(now) jon a couple of thousand years ago......) 0 evidence for god and that the bible has been proven time and time again to be scientifically and historically inaccurate (id say archeologically but thats included with science most people dont understand that though....). Not to mention contradictory and misogynistic. But hey I'll let christians rant and try to control politics all they want. All I ask is equal time for Santa and the Tooth Fairy......Oh and all the egyptian, sumerian and babylonian legends which were stolen to make the fallacies in the bible....Go ahead people look it up dont take my word . The bible is like a rehashed comic book made from a graphic novel......several graphic novels.

If the bible is true and Jesus was real . So was Heracles, and the hydra and the gorgons (even medusae....). Griffons dragons etc....shall I go on......

(there's a word for all that.....Ignorance....I hear it can be bliss, however its also self destructive...)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ignorance

[ermitonto]

Why don't you just come out and say one of two things. You hate a majority of humanity, or you hate Jesus Christ, because I could never bring myself to say either one.

Christianity has about 2.1 billion followers. Thus the majority of humanity is actually non-Christian. I could understand not liking Jesus, considering how he pulled off one of the most widely believed lies in history. But I don't hate Jesus, since for all I know what he really did might have been distorted in the many years following his death before the Bible was written. Or he might not have even existed at all; the debate abong (non-dogmatic) historians on that subject still isn't resolved.

But I see no point to hate the 2.1 billion people who have been indoctrinated into Christianity. Sure, it's rather unfortunate that they are worshiping a false prophet, but I don't see why I should hate anybody for that (unless they try to force their beliefs on me of course, which Christians often do, but not all of them).