Hardon- thanks for the opinion on my avatar, maybe I will find something more visible. Its just nice to have something that is me. It is art and I am the artist. glad you like it after seeing it. It does have the long tired look of sort in his expression , one I had tried to express, one I saw in too many faces in Viet nam but one I grew to know well .

well before I get off the subject any further

Latewood- we must be on similar wave lengths or something , exactly what I have been doing all the way down to removing a plant, too much . gettin hard to get in to tie anything anymore .
Have my lights on two metal pipes so I can slide them to different positions . Have to use a pole to push and pull them now but couldn't imagine trying to move them otherwise.
The canopy is pretty even so guess its time to just let em get CRAZY@!!!!! lol

thanks for the input
Bill