Are these signs?

[beachguy in thongs]

Life is a by-product of the big bang. Stars formed. To me, Christians are no different than God-ians. They'll all be at the family reunion. Uh-oh, hiccups. Gotta go, I know this trick that's sure-fire, one time I had the hiccups for three days!

Sometimes I think God is playing a game with his friends.

[GHoSToKeR]

What's wrong with leaving it as "inexplicable"? Are you going to be so arrogant as to say that, in our short time of infesting this planet, we have managed to uncover all the secrets of this universe? We don't even know much about how our brain functions, about how the forces of the Earth work in harmony with eachother, why some people act how they act..... if and when we finally manage to begin exploring the outer reaches of our galaxy there are going to be even more unanswerable questions. Science is an ever-evolving entity, and every answer raises a load more questions which, in time, we discover the answers to, and so on and so forth. Modern religion sees this, and evolves with it. For every scientific discovery we find, you change your theories to suit your beliefs. You'll say "science can't prove x, therefore God exists" and when x is proven, you'll say "well science can't prove y, therefore God exists".

Don't pretend that God is the only alternative to what we don't know. The only thing God is an alternative to is logic.

[F L E S H]

What's wrong with leaving it as "inexplicable"? Are you going to be so arrogant as to say that, in our short time of infesting this planet, we have managed to uncover all the secrets of this universe? We don't even know much about how our brain functions, about how the forces of the Earth work in harmony with eachother, why some people act how they act..... if and when we finally manage to begin exploring the outer reaches of our galaxy there are going to be even more unanswerable questions. Science is an ever-evolving entity, and every answer raises a load more questions which, in time, we discover the answers to, and so on and so forth. Modern religion sees this, and evolves with it. For every scientific discovery we find, you change your theories to suit your beliefs. You'll say "science can't prove x, therefore God exists" and when x is proven, you'll say "well science can't prove y, therefore God exists".

Don't pretend that God is the only alternative to what we don't know. The only thing God is an alternative to is logic.

Excellent post, and I like that Dark Tower quote...

[MyAntiDrugIsAmy]

it takes faith to explain any origin of the earth. there are two polar extremes in faith; some people have more faith in scientific theory some people have more faith in the paranormal side of life (ie religion, spirituality). i don't think that everyone comprehends or can put faith into the same thing, otherwise we wouldn't have so many faith-based wars.

[GHoSToKeR]

Excellent post, and I like that Dark Tower quote...

Thanks man! I could go even further and say "thankee-sai" or whatever the fuck, but I think that would be too far..

[Kokujin X]

What's wrong with leaving it as "inexplicable"? Are you going to be so arrogant as to say that, in our short time of infesting this planet, we have managed to uncover all the secrets of this universe? We don't even know much about how our brain functions, about how the forces of the Earth work in harmony with eachother, why some people act how they act..... if and when we finally manage to begin exploring the outer reaches of our galaxy there are going to be even more unanswerable questions. Science is an ever-evolving entity, and every answer raises a load more questions which, in time, we discover the answers to, and so on and so forth. Modern religion sees this, and evolves with it. For every scientific discovery we find, you change your theories to suit your beliefs. You'll say "science can't prove x, therefore God exists" and when x is proven, you'll say "well science can't prove y, therefore God exists".

Don't pretend that God is the only alternative to what we don't know. The only thing God is an alternative to is logic.

Well, the same goes for Religion. There are "inexplicable" things in the bible (or just with the concept of God himself) that people constantly use to try and debunk it. I don't necessarily change my theories to suit my beliefs based on what science learns (especially when its something like the big bang theory) and I definatly don't have to. This is just a loop! You'll say "x just doesn't make sense!"(assume its a verse in the bible), therefore science must be right" and when x is explained in the proper manner, you'll say "well y doesn't make sense! therefore science is correct".

[mrdevious]

Well, the same goes for Religion. There are "inexplicable" things in the bible (or just with the concept of God himself) that people constantly use to try and debunk it. I don't necessarily change my theories to suit my beliefs based on what science learns (especially when its something like the big bang theory) and I definatly don't have to. This is just a loop! You'll say "x just doesn't make sense!"(assume its a verse in the bible), therefore science must be right" and when x is explained in the proper manner, you'll say "well y doesn't make sense! therefore science is correct".

and vice-versa for religion. I've heard countless arguments consisting of "... and that's why the scientific theory is flawed, proving that god must have done it!" a lack of explanation doesn't give god credit by default.

[Kokujin X]

Well, yes your right. But a lack of explanation (thinking logically) either means we just don't have the necessary means to learn the answer, or that something supernatural exists. Since we don't know the answer however, the supernatural possiblity is still at a 50% chance I would assume. Surly if it is not something supernatural, we'll find out some time. But you can't just rule out God because you doubt its true... i'm not so sure where i'm going with this, but I think the topic is getting too broad.

[beachguy in thongs]

I'm lost, but who was the scientist who formulated all the hurricanes and laid the groundwork for earthquakes?

[mrdevious]

Well, yes your right. But a lack of explanation (thinking logically) either means we just don't have the necessary means to learn the answer, or that something supernatural exists. Since we don't know the answer however, the supernatural possiblity is still at a 50% chance I would assume. Surly if it is not something supernatural, we'll find out some time. But you can't just rule out God because you doubt its true... i'm not so sure where i'm going with this, but I think the topic is getting too broad.

50% chance? I wouldn't say that. god it just a theory that gained popularity, but there's still no evidence of a supernatural being. There's no more chance of a god than the explanation that the universe is ruled by omnipitant gremlins, underwater sea people that are invisible, magical fairies etc. not knowing the answer opens the doors to infinite explanations without evidence, which makes the existence of god a 1 in infinity chance, the same as my omnipitant gremlin theory and all others.