Yeah, and if there were no guns ,there'd be no shootin'!

Just pulling your chain Torog. Its fekking awful what is happening out there. Simple fact is you cannot plan for a disaster on this scale, but disasters of this scale will highlight how a government treats its most under privelidged society members.

For a civilized nation, what we're seeing out there is the opposite of that.

a god of your choice help all those still lost, unaccounted for or trapped.