Bush and the hurricane

[ArtRollins]

You are a shill Amsterdam.

If anyone would care to take the time to look over the history of you and your buddy TOROG postings they would find some pretty strange things going on. You are both on at the same times, you are always supporting each other, you take over after your buddy (probably you yourself) leaves his gung ho bullshit on here. You joined EXACTLY to the day one year after him. You post right after him in almost every post since. Amazing. Coincidences do not exist you know, accidents donâ??t happen, they are planned.

So are you the same agent? Are you in the same office? Did you just figure out you could get two names and support a right wing agenda in a cannabis forum? What is your deal? Inquiring minds want an expose buddy. You know where I write. It is no secret here, and yours is sort of up isnâ??t it?

[GHoSToKeR]

Hmm.. interesting.

[ArtRollins]

Don't worry Art, you'll learn to ignore Amsterdam's posts. They all boil down to the same few points:

1. Bush is Godlike and NEVER wrong.
2. If you say ANYTHING negative about Bush you are an anti-American terrorist supporter.
3. The Republican right has taken over the United States, just look around you.
4. The future is hopeless for the Democrats so they should just give up.
5. Amsterdam carries a tube of lube in his pocket at all times just in case he meets G.W. one day and the Pres wants to fuck him in the ass.

That's every Amsterdam post in a nutshell. Remember these 5 points and you'll never need to read another one.

I saw that, he and his counter intelligence buddy. I think they are the same. I am too new to the board. I did know how to find the history and place all the stuff. I hate disinformation people. They earn money doing this you know. And he takes Clockwork Orange, degrading droog.

I will chill off them then as long as they donâ??t harm other fragile people here. He uses two characters, like the need for good cop bad cop. They are fishing here, damn agent provocateurs.

[ArtRollins]

Hmm.. interesting.

Yeah, I saw them play around with you back in April I think. Its in the history. And they were trying to sell you on coming to the US. Like it had some freedom for pot smokers or freedom at all. Who the FUCK are they kidding. Freedom in America. They dont know what America is, and they do not know the definition of Free cause it aint got restrictions.

[Fengzi]

Blaming Bush for the situation of the hurricane survivors is just ridiculous. Yes, Bush's domestic policy (is there one??) is a joke. Yes, Bush didn't sign the Kyoto accord and doesn't give a shit about the environment faced by the hurricane survivors.

Those most affected by the storm are, unfortunately, the poor. While we may want to state that Bush has done little to improve their situation the plain fact is that no President can do miracles. These people were born into poverty as were their children and so will their children's children. Bush has been in office for 5 years. I don't care who you are or what your policies are, you can't eradicate poverty in 5 years.

So, yes, Bush is an idiot who history will probably remember as one of our worst Presidents. But, no, he isn't repsonsibe for the fact that there are a lot of poor people in the deep South.

[GHoSToKeR]

Amen, Fengzi. I went to type out something similar earlier... but deleted it and said something else, much simpler. lol

ArtRollins, you seriously believe Amdam and Torog are one and the same? Well, I dunno about that. I don't see anything that would suggest that, but I haven't really been looking for it, you know? I would be extremely surprised if they were the same person, to be honest. They're both cool people, even if we do have totally different views on alot of things.

Hmm.. if they are one and the same then the question is... Which one is the real one? Is Amsterdam pretending to be a guy called Torog or is Torog pretending to be a guy called Amsterdam? hehe

[ArtRollins]

Yeah, cool, back on topic. I sort of read the guy as feeling the same, with the caveat that he wonders why he who is in power now does not move for change.

I have trouble not blaming all the presidents, democrats and republicans for about the last 100 years at least for this problem. It seems to have come about 100 years ago with the creation of the fiat currency banking system, loss of states rights and income tax. All happened almost exactly 100 years ago. So this guy limits to Bush, why doesnâ??t the president NOW see that we are a nation bankrupt to credit houses that never had the money to lend and take hold of the nation, restore the Republic, bring the country back on its feet and stop spending (Iraq has been 300billion that is 80k for every man woman and child did you pay that?) money they never had, never can have, and can never pay back. It is a total absurdity. Where is there reality in their spending? Where is there any real money? So, I see that guy starting this thread as a frustrated American wondering why his country is a colonial military force trying to establish foreign governments when it has its own economy and infrastructure to deal with. He may direct that at the current office holder of the corporation, as it is hard to point to the dead and gone.

I just donâ??t read him saying anything where Bush was the cause of the hurricane, just the fact that there are a lot of poor who may have been much better served if the efforts of that office were put to our internal issues rather than external expansion efforts.

The worse part I feel is spending money that does not exist, can never be paid back and whose interest alone will keep us and our posterity enslaved to the credit banks forever.

[ArtRollins]

Amen, Fengzi. I went to type out something similar earlier... but deleted it and said something else, much simpler. lol

ArtRollins, you seriously believe Amdam and Torog are one and the same? Well, I dunno about that. I don't see anything that would suggest that, but I haven't really been looking for it, you know? I would be extremely surprised if they were the same person, to be honest. They're both cool people, even if we do have totally different views on alot of things.

Hmm.. if they are one and the same then the question is... Which one is the real one? Is Amsterdam pretending to be a guy called Torog or is Torog pretending to be a guy called Amsterdam? hehe

My take, go to TOROG profile, go look at all messages, you will see them always together same time. Then look at join dates. Come on, that is too much coincidence no?

TOROG was here, planting right wing seeds that are so far from a stoner base that they look like bombs in the basement. One year to the day comes in his buddy, they are always together. Something about a year though I have not got. Maybe a budget thing, new guy in the office working with, something. That right wing stuff is too far away, and the Amsterdam character comes in with support after TOROG blasts his stuff. I dunno, when you read it as a thread for a year it looks pretty cozy, times dates, I was amazed. I only wanted to see what TOROG was about and there was Amsterdam all the time, and then the time and dates kept popping up. So?????

[amsterdam]

Yeah, cool, back on topic. I sort of read the guy as feeling the same, with the caveat that he wonders why he who is in power now does not move for change.

I have trouble not blaming all the presidents, democrats and republicans for about the last 100 years at least for this problem. It seems to have come about 100 years ago with the creation of the fiat currency banking system, loss of states rights and income tax. All happened almost exactly 100 years ago. So this guy limits to Bush, why doesnâ??t the president NOW see that we are a nation bankrupt to credit houses that never had the money to lend and take hold of the nation, restore the Republic, bring the country back on its feet and stop spending (Iraq has been 300billion that is 80k for every man woman and child did you pay that?) money they never had, never can have, and can never pay back. It is a total absurdity. Where is there reality in their spending? Where is there any real money? So, I see that guy starting this thread as a frustrated American wondering why his country is a colonial military force trying to establish foreign governments when it has its own economy and infrastructure to deal with. He may direct that at the current office holder of the corporation, as it is hard to point to the dead and gone.

I just donâ??t read him saying anything where Bush was the cause of the hurricane, just the fact that there are a lot of poor who may have been much better served if the efforts of that office were put to our internal issues rather than external expansion efforts.

The worse part I feel is spending money that does not exist, can never be paid back and whose interest alone will keep us and our posterity enslaved to the credit banks forever.

its as if you live on another planet,what economy are you talking about being so bad.too funny.your speaking for the minority.even one of my far,far,far left boss's admits the economy is going strong.

[GHoSToKeR]

But he is correct about the Bush Administration spending money that your country doesn't even have. And he is correct in saying that the interest on these debts is going to keep your country in debt for a hell of a long time. And why? Because you want to install democracy all over the world, when it hasn't even worked properly for you....


Edit: Oh, and Amsterdam, what do you say about ArtRollins thinking you and Torog are the same person? lol