Quote Originally Posted by Torog
Howdy FLESH,

Well I'm glad that ya agree with the gittin stoned part..lol..I figured that you would..but sometimes I wonder..when folks who toke,turn around and say that they don't believe in God or the spirit world or their own souls..I just don't understand how someone can be so shallow as to not feel the expansion of conscicousness that occurs when they toke.

Now don't git me wrong..I ain't saying we should neglect the here and now or our physical lives,on the contrary,our physical lives in the here and now,are very vital. I believe that we are on the physical plane,to learn spiritual lessons from Life's ups and downs..which is why God does not interfere much with what goes on here,if He did,then we wouldn't learn how to make the world a better place for everyone.

In regards to the question of morality..I would ask you--which came first ? Judeo-Christian values,from which many of our laws originate..or the amoral relativism of the Left ?

If a child is raised without any moral guidance or with amoral relativism,there would be nothing to prevent them from lying,cheating,stealing or murder..because they would see doing such,as tools to git what they want for themselves..and to heck with everyone else. The Left,would have us believe,that there is no higher goal,than satisfying one's every desire and want..there's no compelling reason to be of good character,because such,defeats the hedonistic goals of liberalism..virtues such as honesty,honor and selflessness,have no place in a liberal world..where if it feels good..do it.

Have a good one ....
This has absolutely nothing to do with amoral relativism of the Left... Why does it always come back to that with you? Jesus did not invent morality. Morality was not born 2,000 years ago in Bethlehem. My point is that morality does not come from the Bible, but it is deeply ingrained within every human being. We all instinctively know what is right or wrong, regardless of what religion we follow. We then choose later on in life whether we will give in to our conscience or ignore it completely.

By your logic, anyone who is not Judeo-Christian is amoral. Unfortunately, I think that's what happens when you haven't been in contact with many people from different cultures (and don't mention the oil-drilling in Saudi Arabia, I already know about that ) In Montreal, there are people literally from all over the world. My girlfriend is Chinese, and her family follows Buddhist traditions. But you would be surprised at how much we have in common in terms of values and morals, me the confirmed Italian atheist and her the non-religious Chinese Buddhist. And it's not ike that only with her.

Deep down, every human being's sense of morality is the same, each one just chooses to listen to it or ignore it. That's what I believe at least, and that's one of the reasons Christianity is not important in my life, because ultimately it's just telling me what I already know (in terms of morality of course).
F L E S H Reviewed by F L E S H on . Torog I don't mean to single you out. But, if God loves us all, why did he let Hurricane Katrina fuck up the gulf coast so bad? Rating: 5