no there was no clonein or purnin all from seeds garden knowm.. and harddon i feed them 2 or 3 times a week mainly leaf feedin them was usen 10-15-10 for veg. and now i am using peters 20-20-20 1/4 st. and soon i will bumb it up to 1/2 st. dont know why they die like that but hopefully they will keep on buddin got little white hairs on 3 of the 5 now after a week and a half or so of 12/12 was planing on getting a cupple more of the full spectrum flros. and how do i lower the ph of water i dont have a ph tester yet so any help will be greatfull. i flush them once a week or so so it cant be to high of ph can it i disstill city water that has a ph between 6.8/7,1 or so i was told by the people at the garden center but any help will be great. dont want them to die i would be so pissed after 15 weeks of growin i wouldnt try it again. thanks for the help people