Commuter Searches on the N.J. PATH System

[Breukelen advocaat]

Several people have reported to my wife, and myself, that when they are selected for a random bag search on Jersey's Path system, they are admitted to the train for free. This is a nice gesture, and has dramatically cut down on passengers' annoyance. I am hoping that the NYC Metropolitan Transit Authority adopts this system as well, but am not banking on it happening anytime soon, LOL.

Breukelen advocaat Reviewed by Breukelen advocaat on 08-27-2005. Commuter Searches on the N.J. PATH System Several people have reported to my wife, and myself, that when they are selected for a random bag search on Jersey's Path system, they are admitted to the train for free. This is a nice gesture, and has dramatically cut down on passengers' annoyance. I am hoping that the NYC Metropolitan Transit Authority adopts this system as well, but am not banking on it happening anytime soon, LOL. :cool: Rating: 5

[Marlboroman]

Several people have reported to my wife, and myself, that when they are selected for a random bag search on Jersey's Path system, they are admitted to the train for free. This is a nice gesture, and has dramatically cut down on passengers' annoyance. I am hoping that the NYC Metropolitan Transit Authority adopts this system as well, but am not banking on it happening anytime soon, LOL.

I am curiuos to know exactly how they are getting on the train for free.

Being a commuter train, my experience is that most of the passengers are everyday traffic that have monthy if not weekly tickets.

This puts this rumor in the shit-can from my point of view.

To violate my rights by searching me without provocvation, will not be overlooked by some fake ass gesture of a free ride that I have all ready paid for in advance.

In short, if I have already paid for my ticket, how the fuck are you then going to claim today's ride is free?

Besides this totally sounds like a bullshit rumor. I cant imagine the MTA or NJT giveing anything away for free no how.

Peace.

[Breukelen advocaat]

I am curiuos to know exactly how they are getting on the train for free.

Being a commuter train, my experience is that most of the passengers are everyday traffic that have monthy if not weekly tickets.

This puts this rumor in the shit-can from my point of view.

To violate my rights by searching me without provocvation, will not be overlooked by some fake ass gesture of a free ride that I have all ready paid for in advance.

In short, if I have already paid for my ticket, how the fuck are you then going to claim today's ride is free?

Besides this totally sounds like a bullshit rumor. I cant imagine the MTA or NJT giveing anything away for free no how.

Peace.

There are no monthly, or weekly, etc., passes, or similar deals, for the PATH trains. You can buy individual passes for the full price ($1.50 a ride), or save money by buying blocks of 20 or 40 rides at a discount. You can also use a basic NYC metrocard - and your card is charged $1.50. You cannot use the "special" NYC MTA metrocards, such as those have "unlimited" rides for certain periods, in the NJ PATH - only the regular type.

My wife's coworker has been stopped for a bag check twice, and was allowed to enter the PATH for free both times.

[Marlboroman]

There are no monthly, or weekly, etc., passes, or similar deals, for the PATH trains. You can buy individual passes for the full price ($1.50 a ride), or save money by buying blocks of 20 or 40 rides at a discount. You can also use a basic NYC metrocard - and your card is charged $1.50. You cannot use the "special" NYC MTA metrocards, such as those have "unlimited" rides for certain periods, in the NJ PATH - only the regular type.

My wife's coworker has been stopped for a bag check twice, and was allowed to enter the PATH for free both times.

So the PATH works like the subway then.

Nice, thats the first thing I have learned today.

I however on the LIRR, have weekly and monthy tickets and still receiveing the same threat bag searches.

Greetings from LI.

Peace.

[nicholasstanko]

fuck that.



noone has the right to go through your private belongings terrorism or not.



its all about conditioning...theyll soon stop giving free rides to "curb the ever growing budget crisis".




think about it, a terrorist using a suicide bomb is going to let some guy search his bag...without blowing whole place up....RIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIGHT


WAKE UP PEOPLE! (not necessarily you two...just in general)

[Breukelen advocaat]

fuck that.
noone has the right to go through your private belongings terrorism or not.
its all about conditioning...theyll soon stop giving free rides to "curb the ever growing budget crisis".
think about it, a terrorist using a suicide bomb is going to let some guy search his bag...without blowing whole place up....RIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIGHT
WAKE UP PEOPLE! (not necessarily you two...just in general)

I think that I already know the answer to this question, but would you be in favor of "profiling" - as in only checking the bags of people that look likely to have a bomb? If not, then I guess that we'll all have to be considered potential suspects in the war on terror.

I agree that random bag searching like this (with or without profiling) is a very lame way to do it, and is an infringement on our right to privacy. There are far better methods of destroying the terrorists, breaking the morale of al queada, and instilling fear in the hearts of those that wish us harm. Of course, many of our foreign policies will have to change drastically, as well as our dependence on foreign oil.

For now, the bag searching is not very widespread, and infrequent, so I can live with it. I use the NYC transit system, and have not yet been stopped. I used to carry a backpack, with water, walkman, books, lunch cooler, and more. I have divided those things up into smaller containers until I get on the subway, and then put everything into a fold-up larger backpack made by Eagle Creek (the "Daypack" model). This solution works for me, but is a slight inconvenience.

[Psycho4Bud]

I like your attitude! I would rather be a little inconvenienced also if it helps to prevent something big. Unless your carrying something illegal, it shouldn't be that much of a concern.

[Marlboroman]

It amazes me how you say it doesnt bother you that much, but on the same hand you have made your own work around for the situation.

I half ass want them to search me so I can tell them to fuck a sheep before handing over my things.

I think at certain degrees I am going to have to accept the things that I do not agree with, atleast until I can get off this over populated sand box for greener pastures.

And yes it doesnt happen that frequebtly I will agree with that.

However how long do you think it will be before it is common place to be searched?

I dont think it will be all that long before these sheep line up in the name of homeland security.

But by then they will already have such a high tolerance for men in camo's, if they arent in their face searching them they will be out of sight out of mind.

This is the baby steps portion of the American peoples accepting Martial Law.

When enough wake up, they will at some point be left with a choice to be made. Calm the Americans by force, or let the Goverment collapse.

And for the Yuppy, semi elite, phseudo-good-old-boy network assholes that cant possibly concieve these things happening. Guess what, your wake up is comeing so fast your head is going to ache for days while you sit and try to figure out how it was that Uncle Sam was allowed to ass fuck you, and lift your wallet, all while patting your child on the head, giveing your dog a treat, and copeing a feel off yer wife at Sunday dinner.

What will it take that class of idiot to open theirs eyes I wonder.....

My guess is you would have to affect the SUV trade to make any sort of dent in those bucket heads.

What it has come down to is a choice for us to make....

What rights are you willing to give up?

Profileing and illegal search altho two seperate issues all together both link directly to personal privacy at its garrantee by our constitution.

They have created a situation that will come to a head very soon, and it becomes clearer everyday that we will be forced to let them profile the muslims if to do nothing but get ourselves out of the search radar. But a big push will be made for profileing, homeland security budgets will be a HUGE reason I am sure.

Both of these violations of our rights will continue as long as it is beleived that there is a threat. And as long as its the same guys locking us down as telling us this threat exists, we are fucked.

When they are done fucking up the Muslim culture they will come for yours, as long as it differs from theirs, it will affect your daily life.

Then what will the Apathy lovers cling to?

What other denial tactic will they pull from the arsenal to combat logic and common sense with?

Sorry for the rant style, nothing is directed at anyone in particular, but more of a look at society in general.

Peace.

[nicholasstanko]

I think that I already know the answer to this question, but would you be in favor of "profiling" - as in only checking the bags of people that look likely to have a bomb? If not, then I guess that we'll all have to be considered potential suspects in the war on terror.

fuck no. im not into "random" profiling either. there's no such thing, as much as people might mean well. for example, i travel regularly between the states and canada and im usually stopped for full security screening. How fucking random is that? Random profiling almost always leads to racial profiling. In fact, if the idea is to get people who "look" like they have a bomb, the "terrorists" will just switch up their methods and run in the middle of a busy street. how do you stop THAT.

I agree that random bag searching like this (with or without profiling) is a very lame way to do it, and is an infringement on our right to privacy. There are far better methods of destroying the terrorists, breaking the morale of al queada, and instilling fear in the hearts of those that wish us harm. Of course, many of our foreign policies will have to change drastically, as well as our dependence on foreign oil.

Hmmm...how do you break morale? im hoping you arent a "torog" fan. lol. j/k. But yeh, If you want oil just head to alaska. Bush doesnt want to touch it so america has a fresh source after thy rape the rest of the world....then who'll realy be in control? Some experts have agreed that saudi has reached peak oil prod. at 19 mill. barrels a day...

For now, the bag searching is not very widespread, and infrequent, so I can live with it. I use the NYC transit system, and have not yet been stopped. I used to carry a backpack, with water, walkman, books, lunch cooler, and more. I have divided those things up into smaller containers until I get on the subway, and then put everything into a fold-up larger backpack made by Eagle Creek (the "Daypack" model). This solution works for me, but is a slight inconvenience.
that solution shouldnt work at all, because you shouldnt have to do that shit. Its a sham! Do you realise just how many tax dollars are being wasted by them takig the time to search your bags? Even if it wasnt about money, those three minutes it takes to search your shit adds up to HOURS that could be spent investigating crime thats ACTUALLY happening, not potential ones. silly problems like the wide open borders.

ITS TIME TO WAKE UP PEOPLE! THIS WAS PREDICTED YEARS AGO IN THE NOVEL, "1984"!

[nicholasstanko]

I like your attitude! I would rather be a little inconvenienced also if it helps to prevent something big. Unless your carrying something illegal, it shouldn't be that much of a concern.

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