What do you think causes this?

[Marc Benson]

Yeah I know! A newbie trying to grow something is what causes it! But anyway... 30 days of growth. Into flowering about a week. Airy soil with perlite no ferts in soil. Gave it a weak solution of 15-30-15 about 2 weeks ago. Only water after that. Watered 4 days ago when the soil was dry and containers were light. Soil still has moisture. cfl's. Fans blowing all over the place. Here's two pics. Claw leaves and full pic. 3 gallon container. To me it looks like it's thirsty but soil is still ok. Possibly needs some more grub?

Thanks!

Marc Benson Reviewed by Marc Benson on 08-25-2005. What do you think causes this? Yeah I know! A newbie trying to grow something is what causes it! But anyway... 30 days of growth. Into flowering about a week. Airy soil with perlite no ferts in soil. Gave it a weak solution of 15-30-15 about 2 weeks ago. Only water after that. Watered 4 days ago when the soil was dry and containers were light. Soil still has moisture. cfl's. Fans blowing all over the place. Here's two pics. Claw leaves and full pic. 3 gallon container. To me it looks like it's thirsty but soil is still ok. Rating: 5

[lemonboy]

How much air do you have blowing directly onto the plant? Some strains frown on contant, heavy airflow.

[BigBudDaddy08]

it could be root bound. same thing happend to this plant.Changed to bigger bucket and was fine .See in this pic my plant is also clawing too.(one on the right)

[Zandor]

Marc you still using Miracle Grow for your nutrients?

[Marc Benson]

lemonboy, No air blowing directly on it. Just barely over the tops and mostly on the lights.

Big Bud, I thought that too. But it's in a 3 gallon container. Would transplant into a larger one (5 gallon) but am just wondering how tough it'd be to lift 2.5 gallons of dirt and the plant out and stick it in a 5 gallon! Soil is really airy so it doesn't like to hold together too well when transplanting. I'm sure it can be done. Also have always heard that it wasn't the best thing in the world to transplant when in flowering.

Zandor, NO WAY! That stuff is junk! You know that. I have some Schultz (probably just as bad huh) 10-54-10 that I was going to use when flowering. I gave one plant some blood meal tea I brewed up. It liked it! But that was right before flowering. It's going nuts. I didn't give it to this one. I did though (you'll like this) give them all some 15-30-15 MIRACLE GROW in one watering about 10 days ago. Just couldn't help myself! Not using it anymore though. Tossed it out after you scolded me...HA! But it was way diluted. Like 1/8th of a tsp per gallon. Nothing reacted to that watering except for better growth.

I had another guy tell me it looked like a classic nitrogen overdose and to back off any N and just give it P&K. But I haven't given it hardly any N. The whole plant is a little droopy it seems. Maybe it is rootbound. hard for me to believe that though as I planted two plants in one 3 gallon container and that one went till day 38 before they both grew balls and I killed 'em. Upon inspection of the roots, they weren't even close to being root bound. A long long way from it.

Any help would be appreciated!

THANKS!!

[Zandor]

A healthy looking plant like that droops more from heat but it's just a guess. What is the temperature at the top of the canopy?

The Shultz Cactus nutrients is closer then the flower stuff fyi. Still not the best but it is easy to find. You should be using full strength nutrients at this stage the plant is large enough to take the extra nutrients but watch for over feeding then. You are only using CFL so the plant will not grow as fast. So even cutting back the nutrients from full strength to 3/4 strength may be a better idea.

[HARDDON]

NO I will tell you what I THINK the problem is....

The plant is under going its transition to flower stage and you have the poorly acclimated CFLs offering the light

She needs some red spectrum lighting.

Throw in about 5 or 6 100W regular light bulbs.

Help her out man

[Marc Benson]

Zandor, Temps basically in the middle of the plant have been between 76 and 80 all through the grow. Have been careful to not let them get real warm. And I looked all over the place in this town to try to find the cactus fert but no luck. Are you saying the 10-54-10 wouldn't be the best for it? If so what about some bone meal tea with whatever K would be in an organic? I can get bone meal. I've got blood meal as I mentioned.

HARDDON, Will the soft/warm white cfl's work the same as the incandescents? I was going to put a few regular bulbs in there but those suckers get so hot I couldn't get them right down on the plant like the cfl's. Or do they need to be? I can go get a few more of the 45 watters that are the warm whites. That way I'd have 7 45 watters all in the warm (or maybe they're soft) white bulbs.

I also just threw up a 2 footers with one of those grow bulbs (cast a sort of purple light) and a warm white.

So basically you guys are saying 1) more of the right spectrum light (and as much as I can stuff in there) and 2) start a more aggressive feeding schedule.

THANKS!!

[mand]

Wish I could help you out here Marc, but this one is too technical for me love


love mand xxx

[Marc Benson]

Thanks Mand! No need to help! Just nice to see your mug!

HARDDON, At least one of the bulbs is a 'soft white'. Will this work for flowering?