i'll second that. i've got a huge papaya, probably 8' by 8' around. couple of weeks ago a helicoper flew low nearby and i got paranoid, so i ran outside and pushed the plant down in a panic and i heard a distinct snap. coper never came back and i propped the big plant up best i could as i had snapped the main stalk, but not all the way through. i sweated for a couple of days, but the papaya came roaring back, never even wilted. it is just starting to bud halfway decent. anyone have experience with this plant? i also have a nirvana shiva plant that is also 8' and just as big around. freakin' me out, i didn't want huge plants. i tied them down in the beginning, but learned that you have to be consistant and keep tying most of the summer. the shiva is even later, just now collecting flowers, but i heard it is a strong smoke. good luck with your own grow