Loc Nar- thanks for the input. little erie about keeping male flowers around other females. Such a nice kola though might be worth the chance if I watch close?

Sprchvy396- Don't know what the potential for having hermies from lower grade seeds but the seeds I used were really good, not from a seed bank but a very good source. I've read about polinating but yourself. when you do that does one flower seed amnd the rest of the plants floweres stay sensai?

Wonder where Zandor is , I'm sure he coul;d add some pertinant hermie information for us to know?

thanks guys