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08-19-2005, 12:18 PM #1
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DéjÃ* Vu, All Over Again
DéjÃ* Vu, All Over Again
By: Bill O'Reilly for BillOReilly.com
Thursday, Aug 18, 2005 http://billoreilly.com/currentarticle/
Thirty-five years ago this summer, the USA was exploding in protest over the Vietnam War. And today, the radical left wants to revisit those awful days by replicating the anti-war movement over the Iraq conflict. The question is - will they succeed?
As you know, the radicals have latched on to Cindy Sheehan, who lost her son Casey in Iraq. Mrs. Sheehan strikes me as a decent woman who has no clue with whom she is currently swimming. Sensing a chance to humiliate President Bush, the Michael Moore crowd has rallied around Mrs. Sheehan, who has become the anti-Iraq war poster person. But it's sad to watch this woman being used by organizations that not only oppose the Iraq war, but believe the USA is a fundamentally flawed nation. Cindy Sheehan's byline now leads the Michael Moore website. Is she really that bitter?
It is one thing to object to a war; it is quite another to throw in with people who are consistently hateful towards traditional America. Cindy Sheehan now calls President Bush a murderer, and the USA an "imperialistic" country. But the woman has paid a price for her political leanings. Her husband filed for divorce last week, and some reports cited his wife's radicalism as one of the reasons.
I don't believe Cindy and her radical left pals will succeed in dividing the country this time around. It is true that most Americans now believe the Bush administration is fumbling the war, and that may well be true. Certainly, the continued violence in Iraq is troubling, and it is an open question as to whether the Iraqi people themselves will fight hard enough to win freedom, and that is the crux of this matter.
The communists prevailed in Vietnam because they had a stronger will to win than the U.S.-supported South Vietnamese. At great sacrifice, America gave the South a chance to be free. They did not step up. The result was decades of totalitarianism that continues to this day, and millions of South Vietnamese and Cambodians murdered by the communists. Funny how the radicals never mention that, or the decades of atrocities committed by Saddam Hussein.
President Bush has made two major mistakes in Iraq. The first is keeping Donald Rumsfeld as Secretary of Defense. Rumsfeld, understandably, is simply exhausted. He needs to be replaced by a battle-hardened commander who will bring a fresh perspective to the conflict.
Second, Mr. Bush must define the danger he sees if the USA "cuts and runs." The WMD controversy and poor post-Saddam planning does matter now. Terrorists want to kill us, and a victory in Iraq will embolden them and deliver huge momentum to their jihad. Why isn't the President on TV everyday saying this? If America cuts and runs in Iraq, the place will devolve into another terror state where Al Qaeda will have free reign.
No one in their right mind would want Michael Moore or George Soros or Cindy Sheehan calling shots in the war on terror. If Mrs. Sheehan had any perspective at all, she would also protest outside the homes of Bill and Hillary Clinton, John Kerry and Tony Blair, all people who understand that cutting and running will lead to disaster for the USA. But in my opinion Mrs. Sheehan isn't interested in the big picture, she just wants to embarrass Mr. Bush.
The question is, will Americans buy what Cindy Sheehan is selling, or, instead, focus on what is really going on here? Unlike Vietnam, we are now fighting a war against people who want to come to our country and destroy it. These people are the driving force behind the "insurrection" in Iraq. They have chosen this battlefield because America made a mistake by underestimating the difficulty of imposing democracy in a culture that does not revere it.
Once again, that mistake is history. What President Bush must do now is clarify the stakes in Iraq and rally Americans to support the global war on terror. If Mr. Bush does not do that, America will be in big trouble.Torog Reviewed by Torog on . DéjÃ* Vu, All Over Again DéjÃ* Vu, All Over Again By: Bill O'Reilly for BillOReilly.com Thursday, Aug 18, 2005 http://billoreilly.com/currentarticle/ Thirty-five years ago this summer, the USA was exploding in protest over the Vietnam War. And today, the radical left wants to revisit those awful days by replicating the anti-war movement over the Iraq conflict. The question is - will they succeed? As you know, the radicals have latched on to Cindy Sheehan, who lost her son Casey in Iraq. Mrs. Sheehan strikes Rating: 5
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08-19-2005, 01:57 PM #2
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You know, just because you oppose Bush, the war, and 'traditional America', whatever that means, it doesn't mean you're a radical leftist. God damn that annoys me.
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08-19-2005, 02:10 PM #3
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what do you give a shit??you arent American.
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08-19-2005, 02:21 PM #4
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canada's got enough of their own problems.
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08-19-2005, 02:29 PM #5
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DéjÃ* Vu, All Over Again
Howdy FLESH,
Originally Posted by F L E S H
Well..I reckon that yer right,it don't necessarily mean that 'you're a radical leftist'..it could also mean that one could be a terrorist,commie or socialist. I'm old enough to know what 'traditional America' is,and I understand if y'all younguns don't or if one has never lived in America and doesn't understand our unique ideals and freedoms,that make us the greatest nation the world has ever known in recorded history.
Have a good one ...
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08-19-2005, 02:35 PM #6
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DéjÃ* Vu, All Over Again
no,flesh is a lefty plain and simple.he is from canada,what do you expect.
people seem to think "real america" dosent exist.all these lefty talking points are all we here through the media as if that is what americans are talking about.then, when elections come around all those ideas(or lack of) are completely rejected and the lefties are marched out of office to the shock and dismay of all the left in our country.
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08-19-2005, 06:28 PM #7
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**officially revokes Torog's right to post comments or stories from Bill O'Reiley**
Dude's full of shit! Case closed!
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08-19-2005, 11:34 PM #8
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DéjÃ* Vu, All Over Again
Americans would still be sipping tea and eating crumpets if it weren't for dissent.
"The fundamentalist mind, running in a single rut for fifty years, is now quite unable to comprehend dissent from its basic superstitions, or to grant any common honesty, or even any decency, to those who reject them."
- Henry Louis Mencken
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08-19-2005, 11:39 PM #9
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DéjÃ* Vu, All Over Again
Dissent is best expressed at your polling stations or through petitions.
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08-20-2005, 02:20 PM #10
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DéjÃ* Vu, All Over Again
amsterdam, you're really an idiot. all I said was that not only radical leftists oppose Bush and his war. My comment about traditional America also stands, because what's traditional America for you might mean nothing to other Americans. Do you care about the traditions of the American Indians? Do you care about the traditions of millions upon millions of immigrants who've been arriving since the 19th century? But nah, they weren't cowboys, so they'll never be real traditional Americans.
I said it once and I'll say it again, I'm not a lefty, and if I was what would be the problem anyway? You're so quick to throw about political affiliations as if they were insults... I don't understand that.








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