thanks, that helps alot, right now, i keep them on my back porch, my closet is kinda filled with boxes from our move in here. I know its not the best conditions. i just kinda did it to do it and see how it goes, but i am really getting into and if i have to learn by trial and error so be it! so, what kinda lights does anyone recommend, its a small closet, thats the down side. What should be the temp of the closet and what not? if there are any old posts i should read or anything that would help me out, i would appreciate it! thanks