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    Censored by MSNBC: Firefighter reported WTC basement explosions

    [align=left]Censored by MSNBC: Firefighter reported WTC basement explosions[/align]

    [align=left]Total 911 Info | August 15 2005[/align]

    The FDNY released this week audio recordings and oral histories of the events of 9/11. Though many tapes were held back, there should be some interesting stuff that made it out, nevertheless. For instance, check this AP report run by the Guardian August 13:

    [...]In one oral history, a firefighter whose engine was sent to the north tower - the first to be struck and the second to collapse - described rushing up a stairway as people were coming down. Kirk Long said: "I was watching every person coming down, looked at their face, just to make them happy that they were getting out and we were going in, and everything was OK."

    He remembered hearing the north tower shake and thought something in the basement had exploded. [...

    A similar report ran on MSNBC.com, but it was revised later in the day to remove Kirk Long's story. Here's what the MSNBC page looks like now; and here is the story they originally ran, as archived by yourbbsucks.com.
    pisshead Reviewed by pisshead on . Censored by MSNBC: Firefighter reported WTC basement explosions Censored by MSNBC: Firefighter reported WTC basement explosions Total 911 Info | August 15 2005 The FDNY released this week audio recordings and oral histories of the events of 9/11. Though many tapes were held back, there should be some interesting stuff that made it out, nevertheless. For instance, check this AP report run by the Guardian August 13: In one oral history, a firefighter whose engine was sent to the north tower - the first to be struck and the second to collapse - Rating: 5

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    Censored by MSNBC: Firefighter reported WTC basement explosions

    [align=left]WTC7 collapse foreknowledge on FDNY tapes[/align]

    [align=left]Total 911 Info | August 15 2005[/align]

    WTC 9/11 witness Angie on 911 via 911 Inside-Jobbers breaks down FDNY transcripts:
    FIREFIGHTER SCOTT HOLOWACH

    A. Yes, Stuyvesant High School, until they figured out, I guess, there was no gas leak or no secondary bomb. Or no bomb. I guess they put the PD in there to search it. They moved us back south. We ended up back up on Vesey Street and West Street and just hanging out until tower 7 came down.

    After tower 7 came down, we went right to work over at tower 7 to put the fires out. That's here we stayed until we were relieved.

    Q. Did you see a lot of civilians coming out owards you away by the water on West Street?

    A. There wasn't much civilians at the water, no, no.

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    LIEUTENANT WILLIAM RYAN

    I remember Chief Hayden saying to me, "We have a six-story building over there, a seven-story building, fully involved." At that time he said, "7 has got fire on several floors." He said, "We've got a ten-story over there, another ten-story over there, a six-story over there, a 13-story over there." He just looked at me and said, "Fuck 'em all. Let 'em burn." He said, "Just tell the guys to keep looking for guys. Just keep looking for the brothers. We've got people trapped. We've got to get them out."

    . . .

    Then we found out, I guess around 3:00 o'clock, that they thought 7 was going to collapse.

    So, of course, we've got guys all in this pile over here and the main concern was get everybody out, and I guess it took us over an hour and a half, two hours to get everybody out of there.

    Q. Initially when you were there, you had said you heard a few Maydays?

    A. Oh, yes. We had Maydays like crazy.

    Q. You were getting radio transmissions?

    A. There were people talking. The guys I've talked to that were with us heard voices and were shouting to people. We had heard pass alarms, but then we didn't hear voices, no more pass alarms. The heat
    . . .

    So it took us a while and we ended up backing everybody out, and that's when 7 collapsed. Then, basically, after 7 collapsed, I went over and told the Chief that -- by then they had companies with handie-talkies, masks. You've got to remember, the first 200 guys went in there with no handie-talkies, no masks, some of them with bunker gear, some without. A lot of guys I recognized. I'm on the job 23 years, so I know a lot of guys, and they were just coming up to me. It was good to see everybody was there trying to do something.

    Basically, we fell back for 7 to collapse, and then we waited a while and it got a lot more organized, I would guess. By then there was some heavy equipment showing up and the Chiefs took over, and I basically kind of slipped away from the Chiefs because I didn't want to be doing what I was doing anymore. I kind of felt stuck there.

    . . .

    Position over here. I went in there to take a leak and I just looked around. I guess when we fell back for 7 to collapse I called her. I found a phone that worked, a landline, and I got through to her. I didn't know the Pentagon got hit. I didn't know. She started telling me all that shit.

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    FIREFIGHTER FRANK SWEENEY

    Now the Fire Department is trying to gather the people and make some kind of organization out of it and getting companies together at that time. Once they got us back together and organized somewhat, they sent us back down to Vesey, where we stood and waited for Seven World Trade Center to come down.

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