Hey ppl i cldnt get any CFLs unfortunatly so i got em under the hps now and the light is about 1-2' away from the canopy..nodes are starting to bunch up now which is good and ive notice there are what i think are new leaves comming out on each side of every node stems are starting to thicken up which i am also pleased to see ill post som pics on later on to let ya have a look!