makes no differance dude ..if you want to practice rolling get you a pack of bugler ciggarette tobaco it comes with papers and for a buck or so you can roll till you get the hang of it.. btw i used to use the pen method when i was about 11-12 yrs old ..after i got a pack of rolling tobaco it only took about a week or so of practicing till i was polling then just like a tailor made ..good luck and dont give up ..peace jim