Look! I found the Antithesis of Torog...

[BlueCat]

Fuck the South. Fuck 'em. We should have let them go when they wanted to leave. But no, we had to kill half a million people so they'd stay part of our special Union. Fighting for the right to keep slaves - yeah, those are states we want to keep.

And now what do we get? We're the fucking Arrogant Northeast Liberal Elite? How about this for arrogant: the South is the Real America? The Authentic America. Really?

Cause we fucking founded this country, assholes. Those Founding Fathers you keep going on and on about? All that bullshit about what you think they meant by the Second Amendment giving you the right to keep your assault weapons in the glove compartment because you didn't bother to read the first half of the fucking sentence? Who do you think those wig-wearing lacy-shirt sporting revolutionaries were? They were fucking blue-staters, dickhead. Boston? Philadelphia? New York? Hello? Think there might be a reason all the fucking monuments are up here in our backyard?


http://www.fuckthesouth.com/

BlueCat Reviewed by BlueCat on 08-10-2005. Look! I found the Antithesis of Torog... Fuck the South. Fuck 'em. We should have let them go when they wanted to leave. But no, we had to kill half a million people so they'd stay part of our special Union. Fighting for the right to keep slaves - yeah, those are states we want to keep. And now what do we get? We're the fucking Arrogant Northeast Liberal Elite? How about this for arrogant: the South is the Real America? The Authentic America. Really? Cause we fucking founded this country, assholes. Those Founding Fathers you Rating: 5

[stoner spirit]

Well... I'm pretty sure somebody will retaliate soon enough.

[F L E S H]

Fuck the South. Fuck 'em. We should have let them go when they wanted to leave. But no, we had to kill half a million people so they'd stay part of our special Union. Fighting for the right to keep slaves - yeah, those are states we want to keep.

And now what do we get? We're the fucking Arrogant Northeast Liberal Elite? How about this for arrogant: the South is the Real America? The Authentic America. Really?

Cause we fucking founded this country, assholes. Those Founding Fathers you keep going on and on about? All that bullshit about what you think they meant by the Second Amendment giving you the right to keep your assault weapons in the glove compartment because you didn't bother to read the first half of the fucking sentence? Who do you think those wig-wearing lacy-shirt sporting revolutionaries were? They were fucking blue-staters, dickhead. Boston? Philadelphia? New York? Hello? Think there might be a reason all the fucking monuments are up here in our backyard?


http://www.fuckthesouth.com/

A refreshing change... thanks Blue!

[Sinsemilla Jones]

the South didn't go completely nuts, until Texas joined the Union!

[Button Basher]

'Sup Cat! I said i'd quit these boards but luckily a couple knobends have been banned so i'm all good for a decent discussion again.

I think this is a little unfair. Matter of fact i'd say it's damned unfair! OK, so Torog pisses you off, I understand he must piss you RIGHT off. Me too a lot of the time, but as much as it pains me to say it... Give him a break!
I can imagine your frustration as a clear thinking Liberal watching your country turn to shite and these redneck fools (and many other blind mice) loving every minute of it, but this is most definitely stooping to their level.

Fuck the South? Why? Because they have different opinions to yours? Torog might be ignorant and hold many a ridiculous belief but in the end you gotta remember he's still coming from somewhere. Deep down in that tiny intollerant mind of his, he has values, morals and respect, same as you. Obviously they're a lot different but why not? Rather than "fucking" the South, why not just accept those whacky Southerners for who they are? Sure they're dumb, living thousands of years in the past and contradict themselves everytime they open their mouth, but they're still on your side. What makes your argument so much more respectable than most Republicans is that you choose not to simply "fuck them" in a veign effort to avoid the subject and instead, treat them with respect regardless. Something even Torog has learned to do the 13+ years i've been on these boards. He's stopped hating on gays (at least not so much ). I thought that was a big step (like when a dog learns it can't pee on the rug ). Don't take a step back. It's this kind of thinking that is destroying America and thus, the world with it. You dig?

Obviously, it's a fine argument, and very splendid ownage on the Southerners behalf , but it's not what the situation needs more of.

[F L E S H]

I think it wasn't her intention to disrespect anyone, it's just a joke.... A strangely accurate one, but a joke nonetheless.

[amsterdam]

everyone likes a joke!!

[XTC]

Non Political, but since we're in the joking mood.......

[BlueCat]

Actually BB I meant no harm that is why I said "antithesis".....I see Torog as an example of the far right.....and this guy as far left as you can go.....it was never meant to be taken literally.....

[onwardthroughthefog]

Just thought I'd share a personal insight. Though I've never met Torog in person, I have found him to be very, very friendly and easy to converse with on here. He and I have differing views on politics and government, but those differences are more due to personal experiences than either of us being "right" or "wrong". If he and I were to spend an afternoon cane pole fishing for crappie in a local lake, I imagine he and I would have numerous things we agree on to talk about.

Some of you would consider me to be a left-leaning person, and on some issues I am. On other issues I am very conservative. If I were forced to "label" myself politically, I guess I'm a fiscal conservative and a social libertarian. There are some issues i am quite right-wing on and some issues I am quite left-wing on. I don't see life as being an absolute that would allow me to stick to one political mind-set regardless of any and all actions and results.

One thing I love about where I live is that I am surrounded by friends who come from tremendously varied backgrounds, and we all seem to get along very well. Disagreeing on politics or religious beliefs doesn't mean people can't respect each other and enjoy the other's company. It's a lot like being happily married.....sometimes your friendship or relationship is best preserved by just knowing you're right and not trying to convince someone else that you are.

I agree with many things Blue Cat says, and I think the cat has a lot of interesting thoughts. I also find many things that Torog believes in as being admirable and respectable.

One thing you can't deny....Torog is honest, and will tell you what he really believes. Too many people are spineless and wishy washy to have the guts to speak their mind. Agree or disagree, I'd much rather know what a person really thinks than to be strung along never knowing which way the wind is blowing.