well with these 2 ive started to write down everything i feed them on a pad day by day since 12-12 induction... does help a lot yeah. god knows wat il get,, my last 1 plant gave me 5 ounces.. ( 1 plant yeh 5oz strait dried.) wicked.. these kinda look bigger n badder.... my other plants are in my user galleries..

either way i never have got less than 3 oz off of any plant i do.