Quote Originally Posted by Sgt. Pepper
Hmmm. A lot to swallow there. If the presence of religion is a factor in dealing with criminals, does that mean that the godless Soviet Russia would not have had the mroal compass to effectively deal with child molestors? No, I think they'd be on the first train to the prison camp.

I'm not going to try to defend the ACLU or NAMBLA. Nor will I defend Spain, who should have seen through their pledged commitment to Iraq. Whether or not the war was just, we are in the thick of it and if our allies leave the mission because of a terrorist attack, they are not only abandoning their friends, but disgracing their nation in the process.

When he talks about everybody being free to set up their own moral program, O'Reilly makes it sound as if it's a completely random process of deciding one's moral beliefs. Like without religion, it's doubtful that everybody would condemn terrorism. I don't have a religious bone in my body, but you can bet that my moral program doesn't look too kindly on terrorism. O'Reilly is dishing out a huge insult to the American people if he thinks we're not capable of uniting against terrorism without religion. We needed religion-instilled morality to fight back after Pearl Harbor? Please. Are there people in this country, who, for whatever reason, are not outraged and do not support our campaign against terrorism? Yes, but they are in the extreme extreme minority.

I believe this country is united against terrorism. Other countries may not be, but I don't believe Godlessness is the cause. I believe it's a classic example of countries looking out for their own interests, and apparently, terrorism does not register on that list for some nations. Do think it was lack of morality that caused us to abandon the Iraqi revolutionaries that we incited over a decade ago? Or how about so many genocides that we turned a blind eye to? Do you think it was a moral decision to sell deadly chemical weapons to Saddam Hussein, whom we knew was a madman at the time, so he could use them against innocent Iranian children? It's all a big chess game with every nation looking out for what they deem to be their interests. A chess game in which morality rarely plays a role.
Howdy Sgt. Pepper,

You bring up some good points and I appreciate your thoughtful reply.

I believe that thos folks who are not outraged over 9/11 and terrorism,is not the extreme minority that you claim,I believe that there's a much larger percentage than you realize. One of the main reasons why I believe that I'm right,is that most liberals I talk with,believe that American deserved 9/11/01,that we had it coming..because we failed to kiss the asses of the arab world and bow down to their demands.

I do believe that it was a lack of morality,in the instances that you cited,however,don't forget that the democrats have often throw up road-blocks that stymie a foreign policy that needs to be more moral..but can't,because of the amoral nature of the Left. It was a mistake to ever sacrifice any of that moral initiative,to the amoral,anti-semitic UN.

I agree,that morality rarely plays a role,in the chess game you describe,however,the religious Right is attempting to change that,we see a serious problem with moral issues in this country because of the agenda of the amoral Left.

Nope..it don't take religious instilled morality,to defend our Nation..but without a clear sense of right and wrong,Good and Evil..the will to fight against Evil and promote Good,is greatly diminished,because the amoral Left is confused about what's truly Good and truly Evil..why else would the Left believe that we had 9/11/01 coming and that terrorism is a legitimate form of dissent ? Why does the anti-semetic Left,believe that Israel deserves to be attacked with homicide bombers ? Because they are and have,rejected any form of absolute morality-except when applied to their enemies.

If the Left had their way,America would pull immediately out of Iraq,stop supporting Israel and disengage on the war on terror and issue a public apology to all terrorists in the world. The Left percieves terrorists as valiant freedom-fighters..because of the lack of a moral compass.

Have a good one ...
Torog Reviewed by Torog on . God Help Us God Help Us By: Bill O'Reilly for BillOReilly.com Thursday, Aug 04, 2005 The relentless attack on public displays of spirituality and religion by progressive secularists has been extremely effective worldwide. Church-going in Western Europe, for example, has collapsed in many countries. Harvard professor Niall Ferguson calls the decline of Christianity in Europe "one of the most remarkable phenomena of our times." Ferguson cites a Gallup Poll that shows barely 20% of West Europeans Rating: 5