Claims about marijuana?

[moeburn]

http://www.nevdgp.org.au/geninf/std_...juanaQuit.html

I'm asking the experienced users out there to read some of the things they say on the site, do you agree?

"What hashish gives with one hand it takes away with the other: that is to say, it gives the power of imagination and takes away the ability to profit by it." Baudelaire (1860)

moeburn Reviewed by moeburn on 08-04-2005. Claims about marijuana? http://www.nevdgp.org.au/geninf/std_misc/MarijuanaQuit.html I'm asking the experienced users out there to read some of the things they say on the site, do you agree? Rating: 5

[TonyD]

I would like to see some evidence of what there claiming rather than a quote from some guy i don't know 145 years ago.

[420purplehaze420]

yeah there shits not adding up, to me that is just some group of peoples "opinion" on marijuana with a pinch of government propaganda

[Nullific]

Thats mostly conjecture, give me some real anti-cannabis claims and i'll gladly debunk them.

Some things I can correct on that page are that not much THC is stored in your fat cells, rather THC metabolites. The 'contains 400 chemicals..' claim is true but means nothing. Coffee contains over 800 chemicals...oh no!
It is possible to become 'addicted' to virtually anything. Marijuana smokers are at somewhat greater a risk of developing lung problems such as bronchitis.
Cannabis smoke does not contain polonium 210. No medical literature exists stating cannabis as a sole cause of cancer.

[mf greg]

i would also like to see a list of the 400 and something chemicals?

[moeburn]

I dont think its supposed to be an anti-cannabis site, i think its just giving all those reasons for people that are having a tough life as the result of weed to help them sober up.

[rollinKansas]

that site was fucking messed up mind your own damn biz and shut your cocksuckers i say, but moe burn brings up a damn fine p oint

[dankness42o]

theres alot of wrong stuff there saying, the 400 chemical thing is like the only truth you rarely heard of someone dying somking pot cigs kill people faster i mean you dont even have to smoke them to die.about how it effects you is true but there just trying to make weed look bad when it really isnt but we all know its not

[bobthemagicdragon12]

ok just to clear some things up in this article, its one of those that u know comes off as friendly to get under ur skin then they hit u w/ their bogus facts and shit. this article does confuse some facts and i guarantee they know they are doing it, anyways the whole 400 chemicals thing, ya that is true, ive heard alot fo diff numbers but 400 seemed the most true, and id heard over 1000 chemicals in coffee lol so drink up, also about the addiction thing, ya its addictive, but so it caffeine, and caffeine in more addictive than weed, also weed is addictive in that u for a psychological dependency for it, basically a habit, ya abused use can lead to a physical addiction but if used in moderation ur chances of becoming actually addicted r way reduced. ok w/ the whole carcinogens thing, im not positive but i remember reading an article about a study being done in 2004 in madrid where they found NO carcinogens in marijuana, im not positive on that and i looked for it but couldnt find it. and as for that last point thats all stuff that happens when ur high, ive never heard of ur memory being permanently damaged so, i guess it could be true, anyways the whole increased risk of mouth and throat cancer, ya, it is simply b/c ur putting smoke into ur lungs, they r basing that on someone who doesnt smoke at all compared to a cannabis smoker. as for the leukemia, marijuana has been proven to fight 3 diff types of cancer, leukemia, i think a form of breast cancer, and tumors, lol its been awhile since ive read this stuff i should re read it all, but as for the tumors it was proven to stop tumor growth and even retard the tumor upon smoking. i dont know much about the last point cept that they r generalizing, that whole schizophrenia thing, first of all ur chances of developing schizophrenia r 1 in 500,000 and if uve got it u cant really have an increase in syptoms of illness of it, i dont understand y they threw tobacco in there under the list of costs, unless they r referring to all u who smoke spliffs out there, which there was a poll on that on here pretty recently and the percentage who mixed was really low, the hassles r pretty obvious i dont wanna go through them all so just look and think about em and u can see where its conditional, false, or just weird, (wasting time trying to score lol), lol its easier to stop cold turkey b/c ur most likely not addicted, think abotu tobacco users and all the gums, patches, pills etc.. ok i dint see any other facts, i got to the i quit contract thing and skimmed from there down, but yea thats all the stuff i could find misleading or wrong about it, and please if anyone can validate anything i said or correct me please do, hope that cleared some stuff up for ya
p.s. oh that whole thing on ur sperm and pregnacy thing was based on a study in which users smoked the seeds, it was true it made ur sperm useless, but i dont really see how thats a disadvantage lol, and all u who want a baby dont worry ur balls replace sperm every 2 weeks or something like that, so dont smoke the seed if u want a baby

[Jenksie Boy]

I agree with what most your saying bobthemagicdragon12, but your claims about schizophrenia are WAY WAY off!!!!!
The statistical chance of someone developing schizophrenia is about 1 in 100 people!
I know, i couldn't belive it!!! I'm doing a joint Sociology and Psychology degree at The University of Birmingham, England, and so I know that this is the correct statistic.
The reason this seems so high to most people is that a lot of people will have a short schizophrenic episode in their lives which no-one else, not even the person, realises what it is. This could include withdrawing from society, losing self-respect for appearance, isolating from others etc. All potential sympoms of mild paranoid schizophernia. This may only last for a few weeks.
It is only the MINORITY who require hospitalisation, in severe cases eg- strong visual/audio hallucinations, complete loss of reality, belief everyone is out to get you etc.
Just thought I'd clear that up.
At the end of the day with regards to mary-jane, as an ancient Greek philosopher said (cant remember his name) - "Enjoy everything in moderation, including moderation itself."