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[sir smokes alot]

umm just wondering if it was true that since marijuana grows so fast that if a plane or helicopter was useing thermal vision or whatever that the marijuana would be warmer than the other plants?

sir smokes alot Reviewed by sir smokes alot on 08-02-2005. thermal umm just wondering if it was true that since marijuana grows so fast that if a plane or helicopter was useing thermal vision or whatever that the marijuana would be warmer than the other plants? Rating: 5

[HARDDON]

Warmer than some...cooler than others.

Each plant has it's own thermal signature...but finding pot with the thermal approach is difficult if not grown in mass or a field of it.

Hardly any law enforcement agencies will have the budgets to fly around with thermal cameras looking for a few plants.

It just isnt that simple.

[MyMindIsGlowing]

Thermal FLIR Infrared night vision Imaging for narcotics detection, Law Enforcement GSA military

http://www.x20.org/library/thermal/IR_in_the_courts.htm



http://www.cannabisnews.com/news/thread9538.shtml
Heat-Seeking Cameras Aid Cops

By using the latest drug fighting gadget â?? a thermal imaging camera â?? police officers can detect illegal activity usually shrouded in darkness. Parking lot drug deals and indoor marijuana farms are fair game for cops using the $13,000 camera, purchased for the department by the federal Office of National Drug Control Policy. Click link for full article




http://www.propertyshop.ca/news.cfm?...w&articleid=48

June 7, 2003

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Infrared camera ruled an invasion of privacy

RCMP measured thermal energy

Marijuana trafficking charges laid In 1967, Pierre Trudeau announced "the State has no business in the bedrooms of the nation." Recently, Ontario courts have been considering whether the State has any business in other rooms of the house.

The issue of just how much privacy individuals have a right to expect in their homes arose in the context of a marijuana growing operation in Walter Tessling's house in Windsor, back in 1999.

The RCMP received a tip that Tessling was involved in the production and trafficking of marijuana. They contacted Ontario Hydro and verified that electricity consumption at the property was normal. Visual surveillance revealed nothing suspicious.

Ultimately, police flew over the house in an RCMP aircraft and used a Forward Looking Infrared (FLIR) camera to conduct a "structure profile" of the property.

click link for full article

[sir smokes alot]

ok i see and mymindisglowing thats kinda scaryy knowing they can invade your privacy like that but i doubt that the state's budget could afford those cammeras but thanks hardon and glowing for the info

[MyMindIsGlowing]

Indoor cultivation, marijuana and thermal imaging
Friday, 14 January 2005
There have been many reports of people being investigated and busted for marijuana cultivation because their homes were monitored with an Infrared Heat Sensing Device.


It works like this; If the authorities suspect someone is cultivating marijuana, they set up surveillance of the home or building and use an Infrared camera to measure the amount of heat radiating off the structure. They then compare the targeted structure to surrounding buildings or homes to gauge what they think should be the normal amount of heat emitted from a particular structure.


In some parts of Europe, the authorities don't even wait for a lead from an informant to give them the heads up, on a possible marijuana grow operation. They simply take to the air and use their high-tech surveillance camera and scan the roofs and walls of homes in residential areas and buildings. If a home is identified as a possible marijuana grow operation because of the heat radiating off the structure, that home or building becomes the target of further investigation and possibly a raid.



This technique may indeed be effective in detecting marijuana cultivation, but what about the people growing legal crops? What if someone is simply growing tomatoes or peppers, for example, are they themselves at risk of being monitored and possibly raided.



Obviously, it's not possible for the authorities to determine exactly what is being cultivated in ones home, therefore, should the use of HID lamps be automatic grounds for search and seizure or surveillance of your property?



In my opinion, heat radiating from HID lamps is not probable cause to suspect marijuana cultivation. It does suggest one is probably growing plants indoors, however, the types of plants being grown are unknown. Therefore, determining that a person or household is using a HID lamp does not merit surveillance of that home or building.


Manufactures and retailers of infrared cameras advocate their use for searching for indoor marijuana cultivation. Sierra Pacific Corp., a supplier of infrared devices, displayed an image of a home utilizing HID lamps and gives a good idea what the surveillance looks like.



"Infrared image of indoor marijuana grow facility. The red shades of the image indicate hotspots emitted by the high energy sodium lights." - Sierra Pacific Corp.

URL of photo:
http://www.x20.org/library/thermal/IR_in_the_courts.htm



In my opinion, the image only shows various shades of reds. Yes, I can assume the use of HID lamps, but assuming marijuana cultivation would be stretching it to say the least.



Thermal Imaging manufactures and retailers sincerely believe that these devices do not violate the Fourth Amendment, "The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized." - Law.cornell.edu (Cornell University)


As stated before, the thermal imaging devices cannot determine what crop is being cultivated inside a home or building. Detecting the heat emitted from these lamps should not merit probable cause considering these lamps are used and sold legally, other wise this would seem like entrapment. Itâ??s important to stress the use of infrared, because in most cases thatâ??s the final step before executing a warrant for search and seizure.


To summarize, the use of infrared devices for marijuana searches is questionable. It is similar to a lie detector test because it cannot tell you anything definitively. In essence, each structure that is monitored with this device becomes a box of chocolate; you never know what youâ??re gonna get!



Other uses for thermal imaging devices includes industrial, warfare, fire safety, automotive safety, forestry, and more. These seem to be a more legitimate use for thermal imaging devices.

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[HARDDON]

OK....

Next grow room is lined with the lead drywall they use for x-ray machine rooms.

Let them see thru that