Alien Invasion

[newgroweroldsmoker]

it makes sense and explains a few things though




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newgroweroldsmoker Reviewed by newgroweroldsmoker on 07-30-2005. Alien Invasion Alien Invasion By: Bill O'Reilly for BillOReilly.com Thursday, Jul 28, 2005 With housing prices soaring and property taxes punishing in many states, owning your own home has become a life defining situation. Millions of Americans struggle to make mortgage payments in order to raise their kids in a safe environment, free from danger and chaos. In the New York town of Farmingville, on Long Island, Woodmont Place was once considered a nice street, full of working class Americans enjoying Rating: 5

[bhallg2k]

For all the complaining I hear about illegal aliens, no one ever seems to complain when the presence of those same people, due to corporate exploitation, make goods and services cheaper.

[Torog]

Actually as of last July, 30, 2003 972 (its higher now) active military personnel were non-citizens, In the first days of the war in Iraq, rumors spread in Mexican communities on both sides of the U.S.-Mexican border that undocumented immigrants who enlisted could get citizenship.

One of the first U.S. soldiers to die in Iraq, Jose Gutierrez, was an orphaned Guatemalan who at the time of his death was not even an American citizen.



What can we say of the young Latino men who sacrificed their lives in Iraq? That they fought without knowing their enemy, played their role as pawns in a geopolitical chess game devised by arrogant bureaucrats, and died simply trying to get an education; trying to have a fair shot at the American Dream that has eluded the vast majority of Latinos for over a century and a half.

Jorge Mariscal, a professor at the University of California, San Diego
As U.S. casualties in Iraq continue to mount, so does the worry in the country's Latino community that its children are dying in unusually high numbers and are being lured into dangerous service with targeted recruiting by the Armed Forces.

Hispanic Soldiers Die in Greater Numbers in Iraq.....

Howdy Blue Cat,

Your last claim:"Hispanic Soldiers Die in Greater Numbers in Iraq....",is similar to what leftists claimed during the Vietnam war,that black soldiers are dying in greater numbers..it's just another liberal tactic,one of their favorites..playin the race card,trying to convince hispanics that the Right is evil and targetting their youth for exploitation.

I think that it's great,that prospective new citizens,would be willing to fight for their new country..that is honorable..and I'd almost trust their loyalty,over natural-born citizens,from the Left. If there's a draft,I doubt seriously,if it will be based on race,but the Left will make it seem so..just like they have before.

It's pretty dang sad,when non-citizens are more willing to fight for Freedom,than our own miserable denizens of the Left..they at least understand,that one must fight for Freedom and be ever vigilant in that cause,they better understand the enemies of the Free World..than many of our own citizens,who take their freedoms for granted,and as long as they have their freedom,they see no reason for others to have the same..yup..pretty dang sad.

Have a good one....

[nicholasstanko]

SO don't cross the border but you can have your ass blown away for us....thats ok.

Bluecat are you saying that it's wrong to stop immigrants from crossing? i'm just wondering. your post is broad to me.

[nicholasstanko]

For all the complaining I hear about illegal aliens, no one ever seems to complain when the presence of those same people, due to corporate exploitation, make goods and services cheaper.

yeh that's true. but at what cost? it drives down the wages in order to balance. the illegals will work dirt cheap but what about the mom an' pop american worker?

see the catch? the chinese already get alot of jobs, and look how the americans are already suffering.


i went into target and kmart to buy a television and the one i wanted cost 200 bucks. when i went to wal-mart however, i got the same one for 178. i hate wal-mart...but the prices...so low...

what do you think will happen to kmart and target in the next few years?

[nicholasstanko]

Howdy Blue Cat,

Your last claim:"Hispanic Soldiers Die in Greater Numbers in Iraq....",is similar to what leftists claimed during the Vietnam war,that black soldiers are dying in greater numbers..it's just another liberal tactic,one of their favorites..playin the race card,trying to convince hispanics that the Right is evil and targetting their youth for exploitation.

I think that it's great,that prospective new citizens,would be willing to fight for their new country..that is honorable..and I'd almost trust their loyalty,over natural-born citizens,from the Left. If there's a draft,I doubt seriously,if it will be based on race,but the Left will make it seem so..just like they have before.

It's pretty dang sad,when non-citizens are more willing to fight for Freedom,than our own miserable denizens of the Left..they at least understand,that one must fight for Freedom and be ever vigilant in that cause,they better understand the enemies of the Free World..than many of our own citizens,who take their freedoms for granted,and as long as they have their freedom,they see no reason for others to have the same..yup..pretty dang sad.

Have a good one....

it's not a racial issue. it's a class issue. both sides of the political spectrum convince us it's because of race. ITS NOT!

Poor white people are recruited to fight in droves. They all serve as front line fire and the rich kids are back up just in case.


Being hispanic or black is irrelevant. It's because the majority they recruit happen to be poor. if wealth were equally distributed, we wouldnt have this bullshit topic about race. spanish and blacks would have been keeping their spoiled privileged kids home safe just like the elite upper class do now.

[BlueCat]

You know Torog your opinion does not mean a damn thing to me. You can spit your neocon bullshit all you want. It is just that bullshit.
You can't be happy letting me have my opinion and you yours. You can't be civil. Gentleman my ass. You always have some smart ass remark.

You are so clueless. You continually complain about liberals while supporting the Neoliberals and their wars. NEWSFLASH:They are both cut from the same cloth.

You think tacking a flag over your trailer door makes you are great American. You follow blindly without question. You don't know the corporations running our government or how they are tied into war. You have not even bothered to look have you? Do you even keep up with the lobbyist?
Have you read about Dyncorp, Unnocal, Halliburton, Lockheed, Brown and Root,Diebold?
DO you know who is running them or who benefits from their profit?
YOU can't possibly think that is not an important issue.

I am sick of trying to be civil to you. Every post I make you follow behind with the liberals are out to get us....well it is the neoliberals and you are helping them, so get it straight.

Facts are Bush does allow Hispanics to get their citizenship if they will fight for the USA. They are joining in large numbers and they are dying in large numbers. The immigration in this country is as high as it was during Ellis Island thanks to Bush. We don't have the resources to support them thanks to BUSH, and thanks to YOU.

Bush gives millions to start a head start program for 4 year olds in Iraq but cuts the funds for head start in his own country. I guess American 4 year old don't matter.
Do you loyalties lie with Iraq, Saudi, Israel or AMERICA? Its OK Americans don't matter.... all that matters is oil and selling arms.

You can call yourself a great American if it makes you feel better about yourself, but you are living in a fantasy world. Suffocate in that neoliberal box of yours Torog go ahead let them win. There's no fool like an old fool.

The fact that our country is run by a handful of corporations and the line between those corporations and our military gets more blurred each day alludes you.
As far as I am concerned if you support George Bush you are a traitor to your country and everything that it stands for.

You can't even admit when one of those assholes sells out his own countrymen, like Karl Rove...you said; "oh I think that is just a Dem plant story." The fucking traitor is caught, red handed in a lie even the CIA said he was told Plume was under cover. Keep kissing their ass, Torog, that's what a weak man would do. It takes a real man to stand up for his country. It takes a real man to go against the grain of the establishment. I think you have clearly established you are not up for the job.


You live in a paranoid state of mind, I have read you freeper posts..."oh no my uncle, cousin, whatever lives by a nuclear plant, I'm scared, how far will the fall out be"
You are so typical of the uneducated, paranoid hayseed, the rest of the world makes fun of. Your opinion really isn't worth much. If you are against one of my posts that is just a guarantee to me that I am on the right track.

I have tried to be patient with you in hopes you could step outside the box long enough to get a grip on what is happening to our country. I thought since you raised a level headed daughter you can't be all bad. I was going to one of hr websites even before I stated posting here.
I bet you did not raise her did you? That would explain a lot.

So you just wave your flag and pretend you are this great father and a great moral individual, while talking about controlling your children, and shooting immigrants that cross illegally. Continue to claim Christianity while calling all Saudi men weak individuals, or little men that can easily be beat up. You are such a fine example of a Christian aren't you? Hypocrites like you are why I stopped going to church.

You can call yourself a great American if it makes you feel better about yourself, but you are living in a fantasy world. Suffocate in that neoliberal box of yours Torog go ahead let them win. There's no fool like an old fool.


You are just mad because, your little worship Torog plan did not work. We give you a few compliments about being a man for apologizing and it goes to your head. It was almost comical watching you puff up..
You thought you would attack Hardon for his plant names and the women on the blog would all flock to you.

Help Help Torog save us from the nasty words

Torog------------------------------------------>white horse--------------------------------------------------->

Please Torog come save us poor weak women.

"There's no need to fear....Torog is here"!....
OH MY HERO......
give me a break!

take some if that spare time of yours and instead of waiting by the mailbox for your welfare check go back to school.

http://www.informationclearinghouse....rticle4804.htm

http://www.reflector.com/news/conten..._WAR_DEAD.html

http://www.unitedforpeace.org/article.php?id=1991

[BlueCat]

Bluecat are you saying that it's wrong to stop immigrants from crossing? i'm just wondering. your post is broad to me.

No Nic I am not saying it is wrong to guard our borders. I was just stating that some of those non-cits happen to be fighting for us.

I do think it is wrong to tie them up and leave them sitting in the sun with no water. I think it is wrong to hire illegals because it encourages whole families to cross the dessert and die. They just want to eat like any other family.
If we are going to hire them than let them cross at the gate where it is safe.

http://www.rtfcam.org/report/volume_.../article_4.htm

http://www.saxakali.com/immigration/dod1.htm

http://www.cpt.org/publications/sider.php <--------real Christains Torog take note.

[BlueCat]

For all the complaining I hear about illegal aliens, no one ever seems to complain when the presence of those same people, due to corporate exploitation, make goods and services cheaper.

You're exactly right! I wonder what would have happened if people had taken this same attitude when families were immigrating here from Europe...turn the boat around guys we don't want you....
I hardly think that is the American way.

[nicholasstanko]

No Nic I am not saying it is wrong to guard our borders. I was just stating that some of those non-cits happen to be fighting for us.

I do think it is wrong to tie them up and leave them sitting in the sun with no water. I think it is wrong to hire illegals because it encourages whole families to cross the dessert and die. They just want to eat like any other family.
If we are going to hire them than let them cross at the gate where it is safe.

http://www.rtfcam.org/report/volume_.../article_4.htm

http://www.saxakali.com/immigration/dod1.htm

http://www.cpt.org/publications/sider.php <--------real Christains Torog take note.

yeh thats the key. i dont have a problem with immigration...i have a problem with people willing to break the laws of the country before they even arrive.