Young Muslims are here: Politics and Religion

[Breukelen advocaat]

http://www.ymofmd.com/about.html

http://www.ymsite.com/

If anybody has any doubts about the ultimate goals of Islam, and their wish to transform the free countries in the world into Islamic theocracies, here are good websites to examine.

Breukelen advocaat Reviewed by Breukelen advocaat on 07-26-2005. Young Muslims are here: Politics and Religion http://www.ymofmd.com/about.html http://www.ymsite.com/ If anybody has any doubts about the ultimate goals of Islam, and their wish to transform the free countries in the world into Islamic theocracies, here are good websites to examine. Rating: 5

[Nullific]

Im a bit more worried about christianity right now actually.

[bhallg2k]

If anybody has any doubts about the ultimate goals of Islam, and their wish to transform the free countries in the world into Islamic theocracies, here are good websites to examine.

Are you out of your mind?

[ermitonto]

Im a bit more worried about christianity right now actually.

I hear ya. Many christians seem to be just as intent on "saving" everybody by "showing them the light" (i.e. converting everybody) through scare tactics and violence as these militant muslim groups are. It isn't hard, from a christian viewpoint, to justify the use of violence for conversion. You think, well, if nobody in this population accepts Jesus, they will all go to hell. But if I use force to convert them to Jesus, some will go to hell if they die before repenting but many will be spared eternal damnation. Christianity was one of the main motives behind some of the worst acts of violence in history: the Crusades, the Spanish Inquisition, the Holocaust, the conquest/genocide of the Native Americans, African colonization, and countless European wars just to name a few. Christian missionaries have destroyed traditional cultures wherever they go, forcing them to reject aspects of their lives as "sinful" and embrace christian culture instead.

Their goal is clear: get every man, woman and child on earth to believe in Jesus, so as to maximize the number of people getting into heaven, even if it means destroying cultures and using violence. For them, the ends justify the means. We can already see it happening here in America on a large scale. Christian political groups are trying to get the United States officially recognized as a "judeo-christian country" and force everybody to act in accordance with "judeo-christian values", regardless of their beliefs. It's no secret, they are openly admitting to this! "Love it or leave it", they say, as if there were some free society we could go to where people don't try to impose their beliefs on others. Christians make the government accept their church's views on homosexual marriage, polygamy, prostitution, drug use, pornography, and other stuff that shouldn't be anybody's business except the people involved, thus forcing everybody to live according to their religious convictions through violence (via the police)! Many of these groups even openly deny the existence of the separation of church and state (and deny that one would even be desirable if the wording of the Constitution doesn't already provide us with one). There could only be one reason for such a denial: allow christianity to use the power of the state for its own goals. The church and state harm society enough separately; it will be complete disaster when they fuse.

[Breukelen advocaat]

Are you out of your mind?

I would appreciate if you'd explain what you mean, i.e. why would a person be "our of their mind" to read the links and programs about these groups and conclude anything other what I said?

Personally, I agree that the fundamentalist Christian groups are a threat to democracy, but they do not present nearly as big a danger to our society, and very existence, as the radical Muslims - and there is not a single word on those Muslim websites to persuade me that they are interested in stopping the attacks. They are also commanded by their faith, at the very least, to convert everybody - apparently, they've been somewhat successful in Europe and other places.

[Torog]

I would appreciate if you'd explain what you mean, i.e. why would a person be "our of their mind" to read the links and programs about these groups and conclude anything other what I said?

Personally, I agree that the fundamentalist Christian groups are a threat to democracy, but they do not present nearly as big a danger to our society, and very existence, as the radical Muslims - and there is not a single word on those Muslim websites to persuade me that they are interested in stopping the attacks. They are also commanded by their faith, at the very least, to convert everybody - apparently, they've been somewhat successful in Europe and other places.

Howdy Bruekelen,

I'm one of the few here,who has been exposed to a fundy muslim society,so I don't need to read the info at the sites you have linked to,but I do urge those who have not experienced life in a fundy muslim country,to go to the links you provided,so that they can better understand the nature of the enemy that we face.

Rather than seeking ways to excuse muslim jihadists of their brutal acts,and pointing the finger at Christianity instead,folks should at least learn the nature of fundy muslims and be truthful about all the harm that they are causing today in the world.

My little sister,is a Christian missonary and has been to several countries,she did not use threats or violence,in spreading the Gospel of Jesus Christ. Those Christian missionaries who did use violence in the past,to bring folks to Christ,were clearly wrong and Christians do not use such tactics,anymore. However,muslims have always and continue to do so,use violence and threats,to convert others to Islam. It is muslims,who are enslaving Christians..and Christians,who are buying them out of slavery..even as we speak.

Have a good one !

[Psycho4Bud]

Like in Sudan:
http://www.iabolish.com/update/press-release.php?id=41

[amsterdam]

that isnt the ultimate goal of islam???thats the goal of a tiny portion of middle eastern finatics,not islam.

[Button Basher]

Did any of you guys read the forums, or were you too scared to get your minds contaminated by these mindless, death-seeking Muslims?

http://forum.ymsite.com/showthread.php?t=2097

http://forum.ymsite.com/showthread.php?t=2182

http://forum.ymsite.com/showthread.php?t=2122

that isnt the ultimate goal of islam???thats the goal of a tiny portion of middle eastern finatics,not islam.

Right on man. I wouldn't have expected you to say that, but all the same.

[Button Basher]

There will never be any real progress in ending this terror war, until we realize that we have all become collateral damage, unacceptable collateral damage. That being the case, there is no they or we in this affair. We are they and they are we. When a child in New York never sees his mother again because she was crushed in a collapsed tower at the World Trade Center, we all have suffered an irreplaceable loss. When an impoverished family in Afghanistan is bombed from the face of the Earth by a misguided missile, something of our collective humanity is destroyed by the blast. When a child in Iraq is born with gross birth defects due to his motherâ??s exposure to depleted uranium, we have all been deformed. When London commuters fear ever again entering the underground, because of the ill-advised actions of a handful of desperate fanatics, their insecurity touches us all.

Sounds like a real freedom hater !

Grow up you racist pricks!