see the thing is mate it was all good until u started getting defensive-as-fuck, that salvia thing is probably true enough ive had similar experiences, only the 20+ is worth bothering with. yes it is possible to trip on cannabis, but not if you smoke it, not possible youll pass out after 2 or 3 ounces of even the worst shit, drink a liter or two of Bhang Lhasi and tell me your not tripping! well anyway, your the strangest sounding 34 year old ive ever seen, im 23 and i wouldnt go on like that, sound like my kid brother lol....anyway im outta here, dont bother flaming itll only make you look worse....to everyone, peace.........