I??ll apologize now for my long-windedness but this is realy funny?ok first off I buy my salvia X20 from a reputable dealer, there a link on www.sagewisdom.org , not just some guy on the street,....where the do you get this shit,17 lol, it??s actually the nicest thing I??v heard in a longtime I gues if you saw how old I look you??d agree, I could take that as a complement. btw do you mean people who DON'T know better than to say they come from seeds !SHROOM COME FROM SPORES NOT SEEDS!, you usually incubate a pf cake with spores and keep it about 70 degrees Fahrenheit in a low light area (not dark) that is if you grow em yourself and it??s a lot cheaper that way to get shrooms that buying them from a middle man. But I??m getting of the subject. I??ve never met anyone who has actually tripped off pot (no colors or closed eye hallucinations, even mild ones) I have seen losers fall victim to placebo effect and think that they were higher than actually possible (they were all acting all like the dudes in that peace of shit Jim Brewer movie ??half baked?) again I offer the proof that marijuana, although classified as hallucinogenic, is in fact not. It is many things, a sedative, an antidepressant, an inebriant. But the fact remains hallucinogens have no place in legitimate medicinal treatment; marijuana however has many legitimate medicinal uses, it??s ok people it??s just that you??ve all been lied too, you see, a lot of us old time stoners have known for a long time marijuana was misclassified, I guess the word didn??t get out properly, all you ppl still believe the government??s lies. just cuz some commercial or lame old book your reading or your buddies told you that pot is a hallucinogen doesn??t make it TRUE, come on ppl are you REALY THAT STUPID? Feeling stoned and tripping-out are not in the same realm of intoxication. Did you ever hear some one smoke pot and say ??wow I??m tripping out,? if so their full of shit, It??s like, let??s say you were to tell a kid that there was alcohol in a drink that was actually striate juice, he??d act ass if he were drunk because he would actually thoroughly believe that he was drunk?the placebo effect is very strong, try and be aware of it ppl?.no-one is actually ??tripping? or ??seeing colors? from pot, your just stoned and it??s really easy to convince yourself you just hallucinated when your smoking or eating good pot?.if your dealer was to give you a joint, and lets you start smoking it, and a couple minutes in, he lies and says ??oh shit this is that pot that had pesticide on it, if it don??t kill you it??ll give a phatty headache,? you??d probably develop a placebo headache, you??ll experience symptoms to the none existent toxin you think you ingested but the joint was actually some good clean pot from your dealers stash?.that??s the way it really is, I don??t care if you want to believe it or not you can??t actually trip out on pot, sorry ppl it??s just not true! If you disagree, maybe your view of what hallucinating is, is actually skewed to the way-side of what is actually just ??high? .................................................. .....................come on ppl find somthing inteligent to post