nubie420, just checked out the website about salvia that you recommended and found that not all people respond to salvia. Also, I don't think I could smoke as much as they recommend in 3-4 minutes. Besides those things, it said to hold the hits for 20-30 seconds and I think I would pass out after longer than 20 seconds. My questions are: How many times did you smoke before you tripped? How much do you smoke and how long does it take you? I think I'll give it another chance...where do you get yours?