Quote Originally Posted by escaflowne8652
The best bud substitute is Wild Dagga, it has mj effects only milder some people litterally get high off it, others get a nice buzz, Kratom is another one which i will let you know how it is, it is illegal in Taiwan so you know there's something going on with it, it is said to be like oxycontin, Blue lotus is probably better than wild dagga, it's said to be really relaxing some say it's like a mild opium trip the high lasts long, Kava is another one it is over the counter, get the hawaiin stuff thats the best, it's a alcohol substitute in Fiji, wherever that is and is a depressant intoxicant, there's legal active highs out there just go on erowid.org
cool thanks a lot man...what would be a good dip to use first? dip users?