Quote Originally Posted by bhallg2k
"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion..." - First Amendment to the U.S. Constitution

"History, I believe, furnishes no example of a priest-ridden people maintaining a free civil government. This marks the lowest grade of ignorance of which their civil as well as religious leaders will always avail themselves for their own purposes." - Thomas Jefferson

"Ecclesiastical establishments tend to great ignorance and corruption, all of which facilitate the execution of mischievous projects." - James Madison

"What influence, in fact, have ecclesiastical establishments had on society? In some instances they have been seen to erect a spiritual tyranny on the ruins of the civil authority; on many instances they have been seen upholding the thrones of political tyranny; in no instance have they been the guardians of the liberties of the people. Rulers who wish to subvert the public liberty may have found an established clergy convenient auxiliaries. A just government, instituted to secure and perpetuate it, needs them not." - James Madison

"The United States of America have exhibited, perhaps, the first example of governments erected on the simple principles of nature; and if men are now sufficiently enlightened to disabuse themselves of artifice, imposture, hypocrisy, and superstition, they will consider this event as an era in their history. Although the detail of the formation of the American governments is at present little known or regarded either in Europe or in America, it may hereafter become an object of curiosity. It will never be pretended that any persons employed in that service had interviews with the gods, or were in any degree under the influence of Heaven, more than those at work upon ships or houses, or laboring in merchandise or agriculture; it will forever be acknowledged that these governments were contrived merely by the use of reason and the senses." - John Adams



Man, I wish people would start realizing that our country was not founded with Judeo-Christian values in mind.
Thanks. Noone believes me when I say the same thing. Why do people think the founding fathers were religious zealots, when in fact they were extremely anti-religious, in a way that would get them in trouble today if they said tese things publicly?
F L E S H Reviewed by F L E S H on . Murderers Must Die: Judeo-Christian Values Murderers Must Die: Judeo-Christian Values, Part XVIII (Dennis Prager Alert) Townhall.com ^ | 07/19/05 | Dennis Prager Posted on 07/18/2005 10:38:06 PM PDT One should not confuse Jews or Christians with Judeo-Christian values. Many Jews and many Christians, including many sincerely religious ones, take certain positions that are contrary to Judeo-Christian values (which I have defined at length: In a nutshell, they are Old Testament values as mediated by Christians, especially Rating: 5