am I out of line ?

[sheist]

we don't even kno ur email address..

sheist Reviewed by sheist on 07-19-2005. am I out of line ? Howdy Zandor, I'm wondering..am I out of line for griping about HARDDON's choice of names for his plants ? Have a good one ... Rating: 5

[HARDDON]

oh...

sorry i got stoned here and forgot.... (i do that all the time )

wtf else would it be?

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[Psycho4Bud]

Thanks bro, message sent.

[sheist]

Zero.. i'm not tryin to cast judgement.. i'm jus tryin to enforce the jeebus rule i mentioned.. not callin u a sicko, u do u.. but i was jus sayin not to talk like ya shit don't stink, cus shit was made to stink, n i call things how i see'm.. not tryin to cast hard feelins n wutnot, i just want to grow, smoke, sell and be merry.. u may have a point about ppl takin for granted the commerciality of war, oblivious to reality.. there are number of ppl.. i wasn't one.. my brother joined the air force, so i wasn't one them, n i thus spoke.. no hard feelins

[Torog]

Howdy BeebleBrox and HD,

Originally Posted by HARDDON
"But tell me...where torag says he would reach thru a computer and beat me to a pulp, is it then ok to reply in like???"
"No. But by the same token it is not alright for him to say things like that in the first place. You hear me, Torog? There will be none of that as long as I'm here. People will disagree, but I ask that they at least do as civilly as possible. I want people visiting these forums for the first time to have a favorable impression of us. Can we all agree on that?"

Message recieved--BeebleBrox...will do....

I over-reacted and threatened the use of violence,I apologize for that..and I won't do it again.

To HD.. I also apologize to you..I had no business making physical threats against you.

Now then..for some facts: My daughter is grown,she's 25 years old and lives far away from me,she's always known why I smoke marijuana,mostly for medical use and as an alternative to alcohol. I don't grow where I live at and I'm careful to keep a low profile. I'm a Navy vet and I can't but help to respect your service,however,I also believe that every soldier,should think of themselves as an ambassador representing America..good conduct,is preferred..but I also can't help but feel that you've earned some leeway in regards to your free speech rights.

I lived in Saudi,drillin water-wells there,so I know quite a bit about fundy islamic rule and sharia law..I've seen how muslim men treat their women-and it ain't pretty. I thought that you were a juvenile,who'd named his plants thus,so that you could use the derogatory names everytime you posted about them..and git a sick satisfaction from doing so.

Down here in Texas,we treat our women like ladies and I come from a culture that believes in decent behaviour and speech,as well as respect,towards others and I reckon that I can't expect such high standards from everyone,in the America of today,such standards are ridiculed and thought of as politically-incorrect..I should have known better.

I also thought,that most of the women here,would object to the names you've chosen..I reckon that I was wrong about that too.

So...I will just grit my teeth..and bear it..and I think it's best to agree to disagree...and leave it at that.

Have a good one....

[newgroweroldsmoker]

Obviously someone has no idea what it means to be a soldier. Forgive him, for he knows not what he says.

You are entitled to your opinion, of course, but if it weren't for those willing to serve their country, you would not be here. I can assure you that is true, newgroweroldsmoker. Nor would this website be. Nor your precious freedom of speech. You dare to lecture someone about respect, all the while showing the height of disrespect. You, sir, are an ass of the lowest order. I'm not going to ban you - there wouldn't be any point. Stupidity isn't really a bannable offense.

I know what it means to be a soldier, i have been to the army, served my country, i did my NATIONAL DUTY....did not do it for the money and above all I did not do it so as to come over here and claim respect for doing it......

Thankfully i come from a small peaceful country, the one country that has served as a model thoughout the ages, the country that brought to the civilisation terms and words that you american people use in your everyday life and kill and rape and destroy in the name of.......words like DEMOCRACY come from my country.....

if though there is one word that can describe plainly america that is TERROR and people like HARD-ON are among the representatives,,,,,
but hey HARD-ON and the rest of your supporters, you're just a puppet man.....

you fight against the AFGHANS&IRAQIS&YUGOSLAVIA and you think you fight against terrorism, what you fight for is for money, so don't lecture me about ideals and liberty and freedom.......(TAKE A LOOK @FARENHEIT 9-11)
just because someone blew the twin towers doesn't mean that your country is in danger,
the danger lies among the dirty games your politicians play......
picture this:every american president has connected his name at least to a war.....when BUSH comes down, another one will be president, even the new president will be involved to a war, a war against terrorism? yeah right......america is selling guns now as we speak, propably on black market......you see, you guys need situations like this, otherwise where to are you going to sell your guns and technology......all these guns are going to protect your freedom right, no, these guns are going to be used by tyrrants, by real terrorists (not the ones you invented) and in the end are going to turn against you as well....it's happenning every day....bottom line america feeds with guns the globe!

i know it's hard to accept that your country is the real terrorist here but think about it, after all it's a fact that usa is the most hated nation on earth just because of it's politicians, oh well, the people make the politicians,
hey HARDON you're a puppet who is clever enough to grow cannabis (even a monkey can grow) and smart enough to get a lisence to grow it for medical reasons, maybe, but stop being an ass......


what i can say is that some of you are plainly brainwashed by the media and think that your politicians are doing their job as they should..use your brains and switch channel a bit, don't watch only CNN....when you will find yourselves under some foreign power, only then you will be able to value your freedom, until that happens don't lecture me and moreover do not try to get respect from a GREEK who knows the real meaning of the word DEMOCRACY, TYRRANY & FREEDOM OF ANY KIND


NGOS

[latewood]

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In view of some of the content, the ridicule of soldiers or marines...I JUST WANT TO SAY...I lost one of the best men I've ever known in Nasiriah the 3rd day of the war, I truly believe they wrote psalm 23 about Phil,...Phil was a Gulf War Vet. and did not have to go(bad Knee), but despite that, he went stating, I'll save alot of them young boy's life, off he went...He was ambushed when the Taliban used citizens to wave white flags at Nasiriah 3rd day of war, and when the Marines walked in they were killed!!! Phil left a wife and 2 kids...We have a yearly Golf and Bowling tournament to honor this great man...GSgt Phillip A. Jordan, Lima Co. 3rd B...Thanks and God Bless you...You are a hero our minds...I wrote this after reading the entire thread, so that some of you can realize that this war is real. To some of us it has effected our lives more than just being a political stand or subject of debate...So again, Thanks for the sacrifice Phil!!!
We can all lay our heads on our little pillows, and sleep soundly while our plants grow!

[latewood]

Hey newgroweroldsmoker...I'm sorry, but you are full of crap!!!

[sheist]

(TAKE A LOOK @FARENHEIT 9-11)

after hearin this i can agree with latewood..

Farenheit 9-11 was a major fabrication, and if you stuck to watchin American television, you woulda seen it was blasted much soon after. The ppl who were interviewed, were interviewed AGAIN by SOMEONE ELSE and have admitted they were put up to it.. so don't try n use that..

u claim we're the terrorist, but its funny how a bunch of guys claim no affiliation to us and blow up 3, if not, more buildings by crashing planes into them.. with their friends to paddle to a battleship (if i'm not mistaken) and blow THAT up, and their other chums running off and bombing ANOTHER country's subways.. and more of their chums bombing ANOTHER country's subways.. Yes, 2.. Madrid and UK.. and they claim no affiliation.. but we're the bad guys.. I see..

or another country refuses to disarm its weapons for the good of humanity, NOT talking Iraq. we're still the bad guys.. And for the record I was referring to N. Korea.

or countries that refuse to let their ppl out of the country, referring to Cuba. and to my knowledge Communist China is trying to have a race of arms with India.. but we're still bad guys..

but you don't get it.. your ancestors and forfatheres layed the groundwork for most of our countries, granted that. but ur country doesn't mean shit today tho. not that i'm trying to badmouth it, but don't try and seek praise for the work of ppl hundreds of years before your lineage was even contemplated. i'll give the props to ancient greece, but today, greece aint shit when it comes to it..

Conscription was established, directly and expressly, in Article 4, paragraph 6, of the 1975 Constitution. According to this all Greek males who are capable of bearing arms - with sole essential criteria being their physical and mental capacity to bear arms and respond to military life - are obliged to contribute to the country's defence, as determined by the law. Conscription is further regulated by Law 731/1977, as amended in 1988 (1763/1988).

now by seeing this and reading your "know what it means to be a soldier, i have been to the army, served my country, i did my NATIONAL DUTY....did not do it for the money and above all I did not do it so as to come over here and claim respect for doing it...... "

looks to me like you were forced to serve, Mr. Freedom-of-any-kind
which is why you have human rights activists protesting today for concientious objection... riiighhht.... you hypocrite..

[newgroweroldsmoker]

after hearin this i can agree with latewood..

Farenheit 9-11 was a major fabrication, and if you stuck to watchin American television, you woulda seen it was blasted much soon after. The ppl who were interviewed, were interviewed AGAIN by SOMEONE ELSE and have admitted they were put up to it.. so don't try n use that..

u claim we're the terrorist, but its funny how a bunch of guys claim no affiliation to us and blow up 3, if not, more buildings by crashing planes into them.. with their friends to paddle to a battleship (if i'm not mistaken) and blow THAT up, and their other chums running off and bombing ANOTHER country's subways.. and more of their chums bombing ANOTHER country's subways.. Yes, 2.. Madrid and UK.. and they claim no affiliation.. but we're the bad guys.. I see..

or another country refuses to disarm its weapons for the good of humanity, NOT talking Iraq. we're still the bad guys.. And for the record I was referring to N. Korea.

or countries that refuse to let their ppl out of the country, referring to Cuba. and to my knowledge Communist China is trying to have a race of arms with India.. but we're still bad guys..

but you don't get it.. your ancestors and forfatheres layed the groundwork for most of our countries, granted that. but ur country doesn't mean shit today tho. not that i'm trying to badmouth it, but don't try and seek praise for the work of ppl hundreds of years before your lineage was even contemplated. i'll give the props to ancient greece, but today, greece aint shit when it comes to it..




now by seeing this and reading your "know what it means to be a soldier, i have been to the army, served my country, i did my NATIONAL DUTY....did not do it for the money and above all I did not do it so as to come over here and claim respect for doing it...... "

looks to me like you were forced to serve, Mr. Freedom-of-any-kind
which is why you have human rights activists protesting today for concientious objection... riiighhht.... you hypocrite..

oh yeah, you call me a hypocrite now?

you must be very ignorant especially within the field of history, you have no idea propably why i HAD to go to the army.....

you're just another ignorant american who has no idea of where GREECE is....

plus you're so much consumed by the american way of life that you do not realise that it's your country that causes all these brutalities to happen around the globe in the name of liberty freedom and democracy.....

i'll tell you why you make war in irag, simply because iraq has the biggest oil reserves in the world....that's right, your country is in deep shit in the energy field (i do not think there is a single open minded person that can disagree with me on this) and that's why you have spread your troops all around the world.....

and why you have done that?


to protect the freedom of who? of what? only to protect the financial interests of your country.....


you also have no idea why GREEKS you say are meaningless to you maybe, open a history book and look how many centuries my country was free....


i'll tell you what, we were under the turkish opression for over 400 years....that's right, no evolution in any field for over 400 years....my country has suffered a lot but in the end we gained our liberty...and the list goes on


during wwII we had the GERMAN opression for 5 years.....what did your country had ever to face?
ok, pearl harbor only.....then again this is nothing compared to the atomic bombs in NAGASAKI&HIROSIMA.....ring any bells?


Face it man and admit it, your country never sends troops where there is no financial interest.....and stop claiming respect because you fight against terrorism, that's just the cover.....



You want to know why i had to go to the army? yes i did not like it....it is like a waste of time but i'll tell you why.....


simply because there is a nation nearby (TURKEY) which looks at us like a hungry boy looks the candies in front of a candy shop.....


your great nation wanted an ally in the east.....and the winner is.....TURKEY....a country that has still generals interfering with the politics....


so, for a long time you have supplied arms and planes etc to the turkish goverment so as there is a constant threat and instability in the meditteranean sea.....why? there are oil reserves in the meditteranean sea as well....tell me something now....why the hell does america get involved into the meditteranean sea? as far as i know america is very very far away and both countries have stable governments......


Pay attention, I said ''supplied'' not ''selling''....TURKEY had the plans and licence to build massive numbers of F-16 while GREECE HAD TO BUY them......


And now that the EU has formed and TURKEY wants to join in despite the american influence, the american army has to find other nations to establish bases there (you are about to lose the control over meditteranean), that's why you make wars my friend...in the end you try to have bases all around the wolrd so as to be able to transfer troops all around at any given time and chance.


Just like the war in the YUGOSLAVIA (don't tell me bullshit about opressors of liberty there either, i've been there, before and after the us bombing)......don't give me the crap excuses and bullshit that your media channels have already fed you....


i would love to see the american troops fighting battles against equals, body to body.....but then again all you can do really is to fight using satellites and bombing people from a distance using B52 B2 AH-64 etc.....and it's the technology really that saves up your asses not your skills.....without the technology you are pussies.....the history has shown that either.....whenever a civilian bus was bombed filled with children it was the satellite to blame, because the picture was not clear enough and thought to be a military formation while in reality it was a refugee convoy........


respect whoever needs to be respected, i do respect the guy who fell fighting for his beliefs but i dis-respect the way that this incident is being used to poison the minds of people and mis-lead them......


i can justify a war for liberty and freedom, my country has had many wars like these, we never attacked and became opressors in a foreign country.....it's much better to leave countries solve their problems by themselves.....bottom line: who the fuck do you think you are to involve to another countrys' politics?


SHEIST stop being full of shit copying-pasting articles from the Greek Constitution and try to learn more about the history of other countries as you come from a country that has no real history.... a country that has stepped on other peoples.....imagine man, 250-300 years ago you were fighting into a civil war because you had slaves to serve you.....i guess there were some civilised people among you and thought about civil rights etc....but again it's all about politics.......



sorry guys if i went a lot out of order, i'll try not to reply anymore on this thread as this has end up to be a politics thread in a cannabis forum.....and i really hate politics....i felt like i had to tell you a bit because you seem to be living in another world from the one i live into.....


anyways pass the joint and lets chill cause i do not think that is going to change anything in the end....


NGOS